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		<title>Open Letter &#8211; Part 2 &#8211; Seismology and Epidemiology</title>
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Mirza Ghulam Ahmad had never mentioned anything about earthquakes until the first week of April 1905.  Even the great Assam earthquake of 1897 (magnitude 8.1) , when the Mirza Sahib was at the peak of his polemic, did not garner much from his attention span as the tremors had not reached any of his followers [...]


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<p>Mirza Ghulam Ahmad had never mentioned anything about earthquakes until the first week of April 1905.  Even the great Assam earthquake of 1897 (magnitude 8.1) , when the Mirza Sahib was at the peak of his polemic, did not garner much from his attention span as the tremors had not reached any of his followers or reached the Punjab.  The Assam earthquake was in June of that year, while the Mirza Sahib was busy demeaning Hussain Kami, ambassador of Sultan Abdul Hameed II, the Ottoman Khalifa, and busy with Queen Victoria&#8217;s jubilee celebrations later that month, and hinting that he, the Mirza Sahib, should be the successor to the Ottoman Caliphate.</p>
<p>Fast forward to 1905, three years before his death.  On the 4th of April, 1905, an earthquake struck Kangra and Dharamsala, and whose tremors were felt in Qadian as well.  However, the Mirza Sahib was oblivious to it, and it was not until TWO days later, when the news became public, that he started having revelations about this great missed opportunity for prophecy.  And prophecy he did, over and over, until he was blue in the face, about many more earthquakes in the days to come but Nature just smiled and nothing happened in his lifetime.</p>
<p>Much before that, he had claimed ownership to the plague in a very similar way, relating an old dream about dark-green plants to the plague, but after-the-fact as most self-declared prophets do.  And he foretold of many many other plagues, and much worse than the one that had just gone by, none of which came to pass.  Alas, his Yalash had not told him about the progress in science, hygiene and antiseptics and antibiotics, and the plague became a thing of the past. (Sometimes, I am amazed at how cruel Nature was to the Mirza:  even when there was a 50/50 chance for some prophecy of his, Nature betrayed the poor fellow.)</p>
<p>Thus, dear friends and family, your cult of misery was born: from the misery of others.  The way you gesticulate and are over-joyed by death and destruction is beyond human comprehension.  It is simply sick &#8212; and sickening to rational human beings.</p>
<p>Earthquakes happen in areas that lie on geological fault lines, and scientists can now measure the stress levels and predict relatively accurately about the probability of an event.  On the other hand, engineers have designed buildings in a way that damage to life and limb is minimal: two of the strongest earthquakes ever recorded &#8211;  the great Chilean earthquakes of 1960 and 2010 &#8212; were not as devastating to human life as the great Lisbon earthquake of 1755.  A comparison of Haiti and Chile in 2010 tell the story of good engineering and following of building codes.  The difference between Quetta and Kashmir also tell the same story.</p>
<p>So great are the developments in seismology that recently seismologists have <a href="http://cires.colorado.edu/~bilham/HimalayanEarthquakes/KangraCentenaryFinal.htm">downgraded the Mirza&#8217;s 1905 Kangra  earthquake</a>.  The same Mirza Sahib prophesied that his followers will continue to excel in knowledge.  So, why can&#8217;t a bunch of Ahmadis get together and show unusual or inexplicable seismic activity at that time, or since?  Oh, wait a minute &#8212; that might prove that it was all hot air?  Is that the reason why you do not specialize in epidemiology or seismology, so that you can continue to shudder and smile at the &#8216;prophecy&#8217;?</p>
<p>Earthquakes and the plague are a sign of your cult and give you great satisfaction (I will not use the word &#8216;pleasure&#8217; or its connotations).  Populations have increased and earthquakes will continue to happen in Indonesia, Japan, around the Himalayas and in Chile, among many other areas.  Do you not see how absurd and inhuman that is?  Do you want to relegate your offspring to this superstitious darkness whereas the world is becoming a better place day by day?  When will you awaken?</p>
<p>(More on the Ahmadiyya Quixotic forays into &#8216;knowledge&#8217;, literature and science . . . in part 3)</p>


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		<title>Yalesh is Yalash is Satan</title>
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From the 2004 edition of Tadhkirah, before we started quoting from it live on video after which they decided to modify it for 2009, we have:
While I was engaged upon the compilation of this book, I received the revelation (Urdu): Yalesh &#8211; is the name of God Himself. This is a new [...]


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<p>From the 2004 edition of <em>Tadhkirah</em>, before we started quoting from it live on video after which they decided to modify it for 2009, we have:</p>
<blockquote><p>While I was engaged upon the compilation of this book, I received the revelation (Urdu): <em>Yalesh</em> &#8211; is the name of God Himself. This is a new word which is not found in this form in the Quran or hadith or in any dictionary. It has been disclosed to me that it connotes ya la shareek (O Thou without an associate).</p></blockquote>
<p>(Tohfa Golarviyya, p. 69, footnote)</p>
<p>(n.b. Br. Rationalist has of course picked up on the <em>Tadhkirah</em> changes <a href="http://thecult.info/blog/2010/02/24/new-tadhkirah-vs-the-old-they-play-games-with-books/">in his piece here</a>.)</p>
<p>There is the usual obtuse explanation for this manufactured rubbish, but it&#8217;s so mind-numbingly stupid that I will spare you its reproduction. No Mirzai can dispute that Mirza has claimed a revelation in which he understands that Yalesh is the name of God himself.</p>
<p>(For further reading, I refer you to br. Fuad&#8217;s <a href="http://thecult.info/blog/2008/06/02/mirza-and-yalesh/">excellent piece, here</a>)</p>
<p>But who is Yalash? (They corrected the spelling in 2009 after br. Fuad corrected it for them of course&#8230;) You&#8217;d expect an entity that plays jokes on the recipient of revelation to have a wicked sense of humour. Just how wicked is about to be revealed.</p>
<p>Please refer to p737 of <em>Tadhkirah</em>, 2004 edition, for this revelation:</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>God says He would come secretly like a thief</strong></span>, that is to say, no astronomer or claimant of revelation or dreamer of dreams will be given any intimation of His coming except that much which He has revealed to His Promised Messiah or that which He might add to it. After these signs, the hearts of many will be drawn to God and away from the love of the world, and, the intervening obstructions being removed, they would be given to drink of the fountain of true Islam</p></blockquote>
<p>(Tajalleyat-iIlahiyya pp. 2-3)</p>
<p>It is interesting that he gives Allah (SWT) who is free from all deviation or error, the attribute of a criminal, who under the strictest forms of <em>hudood</em>, would suffer hand-amputation. Can this be a positive attribute? Surely, any Muslim, indeed, any believe in the Allah (SWT) who revealed His make-up in<em> Surat-al-Ikhlas</em> would flinch at reading such blasphemous garbage.</p>
<p>Please turn to page 809 and let&#8217;s now consider what Mirza Ghulam Ahmad himself thinks a thief is like:</p>
<blockquote><p>Last night I saw in my dream that a robe which had a good deal of gold work on it had been given to me as a present from God, <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>a thief ran away with it</strong></span> but someone ran after him and caught him and took away the robe from him. Thereafter the robe changed into a book of the name of Tafsir Kabeer and I was given to understand that the thief had run away with it in order to destroy the Tafsir.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>The interpretation is that by thief is meant Satan</strong></span>, who desires to remove my writings from the notice of people, but that he will not succeed. The Tafsir (commentary) being shown in the form of a robe means, that it will be a source of honor and ornament for me. Allah knows best</p></blockquote>
<p>(Al-Hakam Vol. X, No. 31, September 10, 1906, p. 1)</p>
<p>Clear, isn&#8217;t it? Mirza says that God comes like a thief, and around six months later, perhaps unwittingly, reveals that the interpretation of thief is Satan. <em>Ergo</em>, Mirza&#8217;s god, Yalash, is in fact, according to Mirza Ghulam Ahmad himself, Satan.</p>
<p>Peace unto those who follow the <em>hidaayah</em>.</p>


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Just a quick salaam from four Muslim brothers, whose bond is Islam and a passion to invite Ahmadis to the Islam of Rasulullah (saw) and his companions (ra)
Muslims aren&#8217;t scary, in general, Muslims are wonderful people. It is only the Mullahs of Mirzology who have frightened the common Ahmadi for decades into steering clear of [...]


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<p>Just a quick salaam from four Muslim brothers, whose bond is Islam and a passion to invite Ahmadis to the Islam of Rasulullah (saw) and his companions (ra)</p>
<p>Muslims aren&#8217;t scary, in general, Muslims are wonderful people. It is only the Mullahs of Mirzology who have frightened the common Ahmadi for decades into steering clear of Muslims. Ahmadis are missing out! In fact, many young Ahmadis in the UK and the USA observe first hand just how decent Muslims are.</p>
<p>Comments for this blog entry are closed, to comment directly on the video, please <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cf1pChIgR6s">visit this link</a></p>
<p>(And a short message for brother Akber at the end)</p>


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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Ahmadi Friends and Family Members,
It is almost 7 years now that I officially left the Ahmadiyya cult, and not a single month goes by that I do not feel myself more rational, clear and content, and sure of the step that I took.  The first four years were spent in adjusting, and the [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>Dear Ahmadi Friends and Family Members,</p>
<p>It is almost 7 years now that I officially left the Ahmadiyya cult, and not a single month goes by that I do not feel myself more rational, clear and content, and sure of the step that I took.  The first four years were spent in adjusting, and the last 3 years or so have been more of a plateau.</p>
<p>The world makes more sense now and I can contribute more to it.  I do not believe that homeopathy can cure all illnesses, nor am I buying pre-fabricated homeopathy kits for shipment to Africa.  With all the resources at its disposal, neither Mirza Tahir nor his &#8216;200 million&#8217; followers could distribute dirt-cheap homeopathy kits to the suffering people of the world.  You ignore this, and yet you continue to use homeopathy sugar balls in your house.  And Mirza Mahmud used this homeopathy also, according to his son, Mirza Tahir.  Your brain says something else but you continue in your superstitious ways.</p>
<p>You claim to be educated and the solution to the world&#8217;s social and economic ills.  Yet, I do not see a single sociologist or economist of renown among your ranks?  While being &#8216;300 times&#8217; the population of world Jews!  Why? Is it because mullahs conspire against you? or is it because a cultee&#8217;s mind is incapable of solving problems in a rational way, because the truth is already known?  And then your Khalifa says in 2008 that the Nobel Prize is the minimum target for Ahmadi scientists.  Who is kidding whom?</p>
<p>And this is the total sum (0) of Ahmadiyya scientists activites: <a href="http://aams.usa.googlepages.com/aamsprojectsandactivities">http://aams.usa.googlepages.com/aamsprojectsandactivities</a></p>
<p>And you want me to wait? And my children to wait? And keep on waiting for when Ahmadiyya science and knowledge and technology will change the world? And wait? for what? and when? when Chanda collection cannot wait even one day!</p>
<p>OK, back to the Ahmadiyya scientists&#8217; site &#8211; take a look around &#8211; do we see a single paper, a single original thought?  Why not?  Because original thinking was discouraged by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad and made illegal by Mirza Mahmud.  So, you are saying to me that one day this web site will grow into the biggest source of solutions for mankind, and overtake and falsify the thousands of research papers printed on social, economic, theological issues.</p>
<p>Why so? Isn&#8217;t knowledge everybody&#8217;s?  Why are you separate from the world?  Why do you have all the answers to the world&#8217;s problems but cannot explain them to anybody?</p>
<p>Are you sure you are not being duped by a lying cult? Absolutely sure?</p>
<p>Still not sure? Check out some Muslim scientists, politicians and thought leaders in the world today.  Stop &#8211; at this point, be honest: are you actually ashamed or getting angry at Muslims or finding some far-fetched excuse?   Hmmm . . . the little thought in your head is telling you that you are just being fooled by a lying cult.  Listen to it.</p>


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		<description><![CDATA[In the old version of Tadhkirah (2004 edition) there was an ilham on page 346:
God almighty has conveyed it to me that every person to whom my call is conveyed and who does not accept me is not a Muslim and is accountable to God for his defult (Letter addressed to Dr. Abdul Hakeem)(April 1906).
In [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>In the old version of Tadhkirah (2004 edition) there was an ilham on page 346:</p>
<blockquote><p>God almighty has conveyed it to me that every person to whom my call is conveyed and who does not accept me is not a Muslim and is accountable to God for his defult (Letter addressed to Dr. Abdul Hakeem)(April 1906).</p></blockquote>
<p>In the new version of the Tadhkirah this revelation does not exist!!! It seems that Masroor is at again, he has purposely re-published a new version of this book so that some controversial revelations might be suppressed.</p>
<p>On a side note, MGA had denied ever making this statement.</p>
<p>In Haqiqatul Wahy(1907) p. 178 he writes:</p>
<blockquote><p>Dr. Abdul Hakim in his pamphlet MASIH AL-DAJJAL and other writings accuses me of having written that anyone who does not believe in me, even if he has not heard my name or is living in a country beyond the reach of my call, is an unbeliever and shall go to hell. This is a patent fabrication by the Doctor. I have never said so in any book or poster of mine. It is binding on him to produce such writings of mine in which I have said so!</p></blockquote>
<p>MGA must have forgot what he wrote in that letter to Dr. Hakeem Khan, a year after writing the letter he totally denied it.</p>
<blockquote><p>The first edition (of Tadhkirah) was compiled by a committee, headed by Mirza Bashir Ahmad, appointed by Khalifatul Masih II and was published in 1935 (see the preface of the current edition).</p></blockquote>
<p>After the death of MGA his followers must have accidentally uncovered the truth. And now Masroor is trying to suppress this information.</p>


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		<title>“Christ and the Crucifixtion” by Todd Lawson</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[“Christ and the Crucifixtion” by Todd Lawson
Todd Lawson recently released a thoroughly researched book titled Christ and the Crucifixion.  In this research book, Lawson analyzed Surah al-Nisa’, Verse 157 (4:158 in the ahmadi Quran) and the historicity therein.  Lawson takes us on a journey through the thought process of over twenty-five mufassireen (interpreters [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>“Christ and the Crucifixtion” by Todd Lawson</p>
<p>Todd Lawson recently released a thoroughly researched book titled Christ and the Crucifixion.  In this research book, Lawson analyzed Surah al-Nisa’, Verse 157 (4:158 in the ahmadi Quran) and the historicity therein.  Lawson takes us on a journey through the thought process of over twenty-five mufassireen (interpreters of the Qu’ran).  Lawson gives the reader an opportunity to view what Muslim scholars had to say on the subject.<br />
This is a very troubling development for Ahmadiyyat.  This research project shows that, historically for generations, 99.9% of Muslims believed in four things:<br />
a&#8212;That ‘Esa bin Maryam عليه اسلام was never on a cross<br />
b&#8212;Another person was put on the cross<br />
c&#8212;-Jesus physically ascended to heaven<br />
d&#8212;-Jesus will physically descend<br />
There was even an account of Al-Zamakhshari (d. 538/1144). Zamakhshari was of Mu’tazalite persuasion and was known to hold “rationalistic” and non-traditional tendencies (Lawson, 100).  The author comments on Zamakhshari , writing:<br />
“Al-Zamakhsari relates the famous story of how Jesus asked his disciples for a volunteer to be killed in his stead.  God cast the likeness of Jesus upon a disciple who was subsequently crucified and killed.  The exegete mentions that some believe this to have been Judas, who was substituted for Jesus and crucified as punishment for his betrayal.   That this account is unsatisfactory of Al-Zamakhsari is evident when he details the confusion of the witness of these events:  ‘some said that Jesus was killed and crucified, and some said, “If that is Jesus, where is our companion, or if that is our companion, where is Jesus?”  Some said he was raised to heaven and some said that the face, is the face of Jesus, but the body, is the body of our companion” (pg. 101, Lawson).<br />
Amazingly enough, when defining Aal Imran, verse 54 Zamakhasari wrote that mutawafikka meant death.  Lawson writes the impression of Zamakhasari: “The Jews then agreed to kill Jesus, and God informed Jesus that he would raise him to heaven and purify him of association with the offenders”.<br />
3:55 by Al- Zamakhsari:<br />
“Lo, God said: “Oh Jesus! Verily, I shall cause thee to die, and shall exalt thee unto me, and cleanse thee of (the presence of) those who are bent on denying the truth…………….”</p>
<p>In summary, Zamakhsari believed:<br />
a&#8212;Jesus was never on the cross<br />
b&#8212;Allah caused Jesus to die before He wafaa’d him to heaven, physically<br />
c&#8212;Jesus will physically return<br />
d&#8212;Someone else was hung on the cross, not ‘Esa عليه السلام<br />
This proves that in the past there were some Muslims who believed that ‘Esa bin Maryam عليه السلام had died according to Surah Aal Imran verse 54, but that did not change the other underlying factors of the substitution theory.  In other words, just because Jesus died, does not change the fact that he will physically return, nor does it change the fact that someone else was hung. Nor does it mean that he travelled to India!<br />
In my opinion, it appears that some Muslims believed that ‘Esa bin Maryam عليه السلام died the day after his disciple was hung.  Jesus was able to meet some of his companions before he was physically raised.  The Muslim scholars who wrote that ‘Esa bin Maryam عليه السلام died, they all believed in the “substitution theory”. They never thought that he lived more than a week after the attempted hanging.<br />
Mirza Ghulam and other Ahmadi leaders have also quoted Imam Malik in terms of the death of ‘Esa bin Maryam عليه السلام.  They have written that Imam Malik also believed in the death of ‘Esa bin Maryam عليه السلام.  It seems that Imam Malik believed that ‘Esa bin Maryam عليه السلام died just a few days after his likeness was cast upon another, it also appears that Imam Malik believed that ‘Esa bin Maryam عليه السلام had physically ascended to heaven and will physically re-appear.  Further, Imam Malik believed that ‘Esa bin Maryam عليه السلام would return as a “non-prophet”.<br />
Ahmadiyya thought has cleverly masked the totality of the beliefs of the ones that they quote.  May Allah guide them back to Islam!<br />
Todd Lawson is an Associate Professor at the University of Toronto.  His accolades are as follows:<br />
•	PHD (1987) McGill University<br />
•	M.A. (1980) McGill University<br />
•	B.A. (1976) University of British Columbia</p>
<p>WE CAN WHAT WE WILL DO&#8211;CIRCA 1883</p>


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		<title>Shahid Kamal Speaks at Hendon Mosque</title>
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I was invited by Shaykh Suliman Gani to talk on the subject of Ahmadiyya at Hendon Mosque &#38; Islamic Centre on Saturday evening. Alhamdulillah, it was a packed house. It always amazes me to see packed mosques full of observing Muslims of all backgrounds. Islam is  a beautiful deen and it beats strong in the [...]


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<p>I was invited by Shaykh Suliman Gani to talk on the subject of Ahmadiyya at Hendon Mosque &amp; Islamic Centre on Saturday evening. Alhamdulillah, it was a packed house. It always amazes me to see packed mosques full of observing Muslims of all backgrounds. Islam is  a beautiful <em>deen</em> and it beats strong in the hearts of many.</p>
<p>Sadly, I have no audio recording of the talk, but it went very well <em>alhamdulillah</em> and the brothers who greeted me afterwards gave uniformly positive feedback. There was a good round of Q&amp;A at the end.</p>
<p>My talk was the last one of the programme, following Shaykh Suliman Gani&#8217;s impassioned defence of the Finality of Prophethood. His talk in turn followed an inspiring talk by one of the local shaykhs on the status of the sahabas. I covered some of the Myths and Misconceptions that Ahmadis have about Islam, Muslims and themselves. The substance of this talk was covered in greater detail in a video that I made with the team that produced my interview on Iqra. It will be made available on the web soon insha&#8217;Allah.</p>
<h4>Myth 1: Ahmadis are United, Muslims are disunited</h4>
<p>I conducted a straw poll and asked the attendees who the Last Prophet was. The result was unanimous. I told the audience that the answer would be the same in just about any mosque in the world and that was our true unity &#8211; that and our shared `eeman. I explained that our theology is broadly similar. Credit must go to brother Farhan for inspiration.</p>
<p>I then referred to the Ahmadiyya, whose membership backbite amongst themselves and are not even united on whether their founder was a prophet or not.</p>
<h4>Myth 2: Mullahs</h4>
<p>Mullahs are bogeymen, used by the Mirzology clergy to frighten their children, the way Victorian parents used &#8220;Saladin&#8221; as a bogeyman to terrify their kids at bedtime. And in any case, Ahmadiyya clergy have spread hatred about Muslim `ulama since the time of the founder of Mirzology himself, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani, which kind of makes them ideal arhcetypes for their &#8220;mullah&#8221; fantasy, inverting the &#8220;Love for All, Hatred for None&#8221; credo neatly.</p>
<p>I then asked if Sheikh Hamza Yusuf, Professor Tariq Ramadan or Shaykh Suliman Gani (who had already spoken at this gathering) were preachers of hate or mullahs? The audience was incredulous, of course not!</p>
<h4>Myth 3: That Ahmadis are better educated and better thinkers than the low-life Muslims.</h4>
<p>Prospect magazine, which ran a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_100_Public_Intellectuals_Poll">poll on the Top 100 public intellectuals in 2008</a>, showed that the top 10 were&#8230; ALL MUSLIMS. That&#8217;s right. Not a single Mirzologist in the top 10. Not one in the top 100 either. That&#8217;s because there are currently no notable thinkers from the Cult of Mirzology.</p>
<h4>Myth 4: That Ahmadis are growing in number all the time.</h4>
<p>I pointed out that in 2002, Mirza Tahir claimed a membership of 200M. The audience laughed. In 2003, Nasim Rehmatullah claimed 50M. I wondered where the 150M had disappeared to.</p>
<p>For more, <a href="http://www.thecult.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&amp;t=252">have a look here</a>.</p>
<p>I plan on continuing, insha&#8217;Allah to give as many talks as my schedule permits. Having previously talked at Morden Islamic Centre, Kingston and Tooting Islamic Centre, this was my first talk on Mirzology in North London.</p>
<p>May Allah (SWT) guide the Ahmadis to Islam.</p>


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		<title>Takfīr &#8211; Declaring others Kāfir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Farhan</dc:creator>
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This is one of the most touchy topics between Muslims and Ahmadis, inspiring the most enmity and ill-feelings between the two religions. But, I think that this important topic that should be discussed in a civil, respectful yet firm manor.
First, a definition. Roughly speaking, Takfīr (تكفير) means to declare someone not a Muslim. This dangerous task is [...]


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<p>This is one of the most touchy topics between Muslims and Ahmadis, inspiring the most enmity and ill-feelings between the two religions. But, I think that this important topic that should be discussed in a civil, respectful yet firm manor.</p>
<p>First, a definition. Roughly speaking, Takfīr (تكفير) means to declare someone not a Muslim. This dangerous task is only done to save the Muslims from falling into deviant or otherwise corrupted interpretations of Islam which would render them non-Muslims.</p>
<p>I do not call individual Ahmadis kāfir. I never have and, in sha Allah, I never will. The reason I do not is because I personally know Ahmadis who are only Ahmadi by-name, but in reality they are Muslims. They only bear the title &#8220;Ahmadi&#8221; because they were born into the faith. I do not claim to know what is in the hearts of Ahmadis. Instead, I declare the religion itself to be Kufr. Meaning, the religion Ahmadiyya is not Islam. <strong>I judge the religion, not the individual adherent of the religion.</strong> This is why we call Ahmadis from Ahmadiyya and to Islam.</p>
<p>Lets compare this to the writings of Mirza Bashir-ud-Deen Mahmood Ahmad, the second &#8220;khalifah&#8221; of Ahmadiyya. In his book <a title="The Truth about the Split" href="http://www.alislam.org/library/books/Truth-about-the-Split.pdf" target="_blank">The Truth about the Split</a>, he wrote about the issue of Takfīr. The following are three quotes, starting from his highly questionable quote moving to his most extreme declaration.</p>
<p>On page 74 of the book, he wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>Now, as we hold that the revelation which came to the Promised Messiah are such that their acceptance is obligatory on mankind in general, to us, <strong>the man who rejects the Promised Messiah is a kafir</strong> agreeably to the teachings of the Holy Quran, although he may well be a believer in all the other truths of religion because the presence even of one of the necessary conditions of Kufr is sufficient to make a man kafir.</p></blockquote>
<p>In this quote, Mahmood Ahmad declares Muslims who do not believe Mirza Ghulam is the Maseeh as kaafirs. Now consider the following quote. On page 162, he wrote:</p>
<blockquote>
<div id="_mcePaste">Then in my own words. I summarised the purport of the quotations as follows: &#8220;Thus, according to these quotations, not only are those deemed to be kuffar, who openly style the Promised Messiah as kafir, and those who although they do not style him thus, decline still to accept his claim, <strong>but even those who, in their hearts, believe the Promised Messiahas to be true, and do not even deny him with their tongues, but hesitate to enter into his Bai‘at, have here been adjudged to be kuffar.</strong>&#8220;</div>
</blockquote>
<p>In this quote, Mahmood Ahmad re-declares Muslims to be kufār, but then takes the additional step to even declare those Ahmadis who have not formally given him the Bay&#8217;ah (pledge) are not Muslims. This quote is more aggressive. Lets now look at the most extreme quote. On page 70, he wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>These changes, according to Maulawi Muhammad Ali, relate to three matters; &#8230; (3) the belief that all those <em>so-called Muslims</em> who have not entered into his Bai‘at formally, wherever they may be, a<strong>re kuffar and outside the pale of Islam</strong>, <em>even though they may not have heard the name of the Promised Messiah</em>.</p></blockquote>
<p>In this most extreme statement, <em>Mahmood Ahmad declares 1.2 billion Muslims to be kufār</em>, even if they have not heard the name Mirza Ghulam. Ironically, most Ahmadis become upset that the religion itself has been declared a separate religion, distinct and unique from Islam.</p>
<p>(There are other statements of this nature by Mirza Ghulam himself, but I&#8217;ll save those for another post)</p>
<p>To my Ahmadi readers, do not accept this aggressive declaration of Kufr from those whom you invest your faith in. Instead, leave this false prophet and his misguidance and embrace the traditional path of Islam. Islam is in your blood, take back what Mirza Ghulam stole from you. <em>I would be honored to call you my brother- not in Ahmadiyya- but in Islam.</em></p>


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		<title>Unity in Islam vs Ahmadiyya</title>
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An Ahmadi commentator on Shahid&#8217;s post recently described his community as the &#8220;Epitome of Unity&#8221;, and cited the system of Khilafah as a symbol of this fact. Is their unity really as solid as they would like to admit? Lets take a closer look.
For starters, most of us know that the Ahmadi community split into two [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>Bismillah,</p>
<p>An Ahmadi commentator on <a href="http://thecult.info/blog/2010/01/19/100-red-buses/">Shahid&#8217;s post</a> recently described his community as the &#8220;Epitome of Unity&#8221;, and cited the system of Khilafah as a symbol of this fact. Is their unity really as solid as they would like to admit? Lets take a closer look.</p>
<p>For starters, most of us know that the Ahmadi community split into two sects: <em>Lahori </em>and <em>Qadiani</em>. The Lahori group claims to be the true followers of Mirza Ghulam. They condemn the mainstream Qadiani leaders as misguided and aggressively argue against Qadiani Ahmadiyya. They venerate Mirza Ghulam, but citing his own books,<em> they do not consider him to be a prophet</em>.</p>
<p>That split is well-known. <strong>But, most do not know that even the Qadiani sect split. </strong>Not once, but several times. Each claims to be the true Qadian sect. Here are some examples:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.anwarulislam.com/">Anwar-ul Islam Movement of Nigeria</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.jaam-international.org/">Jama&#8217;at Ahmadiyya Al Mouslemeen</a> &#8211; This group considers the mainstream Ahmadis to be misguided, heavily criticizes the Ahmadi concept of Khilafah, and cites Mirza Ghulam&#8217;s own writings.</li>
<li><a href="http://www.jamaat-ul-sahih-al-islam.com/">Jamaat ul Sahih Al-Islam</a></li>
</ul>
<p>So much for unity! They cannot even agree if he was a prophet or not! Thus is the fate of those who invent lies in the religion of Muhammad, peace be upon him.</p>
<p>Now compare this to Islam. It is undeniable that there are differences amongst Muslims. Anyone who says otherwise is deceiving himself. But contrary to what the Ahmadi leaders say, Muslims are nearly theologically homogeneous. <strong>The Islam preached in China is the same practiced in Sweden, South Africa or Mexico</strong>. I always say, if you were blindfolded and listened to a talk in a masjid in any random part of the world, you would not know which &#8220;school of thought&#8221; that community belonged to unless you asked very specific questions.</p>
<p>Why are we theologically unified? It is because our scholars and intellectuals do not reinvent the entire faith every few years. We do not expect divine reformers to completely alter the interpretations of the faith. <strong>Most importantly, we do not put utmost prophetic faith in any individual except the Prophet Muhammad, prayers and peace be upon him.</strong> Instead, we refer to the interpretations and understandings of the earliest Muslims. We recognize that they were closer to the prophetic cup of guidance. So, when there are disputes in understanding, we look to see how the first few generations understood the religion and submit ourselves to their pure conclusions. From personal experience, I have attended lecture events where Shaykhs from Syria, Pakistan and New York held the same positions and conclusions- no differences!</p>
<p>When disputes occur, they come in two flavors:</p>
<ol>
<li>High-level, trivial issues of rationalized beliefs that are not explicitly found in the Qur&#8217;an and Prophetic traditions. In general, these kinds of differences do not manifest and most Muslims are not even aware of them.</li>
<li>How to react to modern political events &#8211; These are not theological disputes, they are purely based on politics.</li>
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<p><strong>Orthodox Muslims do not feel the need to adhere to any group or ideology</strong>, except when necessary to distinguish ourselves from those who have clear sectarian approaches to Islam. If you have more questions about this, kindly refer to <a href="http://www.central-mosque.com/fiqh/diffumm.pdf">Differences in the Ummat and Siraat-e-Mustaqeem</a> by <em>Mufti Afzal Hoosen Elias</em>. His explanation is far more thorough and complete.</p>
<p>So, what about a Khalifah? After all, Muslims don&#8217;t have a Khalifah and Ahmadis do. Isn&#8217;t that a point for the Ahmadi side? Well, not quite. Mirza Masroor Ahmad can call himself whatever he likes, but he is not a khalifah. For a better explanation, kindly refer to this video:<br />
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<p>To my dear Ahmadi readers, <strong>Islam is your Birthright! You are our brothers who were torn from us.</strong> Take back what Mirza Ghulam stole from you! Leave Ahmadiyya and become a Muslim!</p>


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		<title>The Mirzas were Traitors Vol. 1</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>I am reading a book written by William Wilson Hunter titled <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=tlQOAAAAQAAJ&amp;oe=UTF-8">The Indian Musalmans</a></span> (1872). Hunter relates the story of Syed Ahmad Barelvi and how he rallied the Muslims of India, Afghanistan and Bengal to do <em>jihad</em> against Ranjeet Singh and the Sikhs. Hunter explained how the British were afraid of what <em>jihad</em> could do to their businesses. <em>Jihad</em> was a very dangerous concept and the Hunter thought that the British ought to have been aware of it. They also needed to find a way to quell any thoughts of rebellion amongst the Muslims. Hunter writes that legally a Muslim could not do <em>jihad</em> against a ruler who allowed Muslims to practice their religion peacefully. This was the strategy of the British once they came to power.</p>
<p>It is my opinion that Mirza Ghulam, who came from a long line of traitors, was commissioned not by Allah but by the British. I will provide documentation of these tendencies from a family in Qadian, India.</p>
<p>&#8220;On June the 11th, 1849, Mr. J. M. Wilson, Financial Commissioner, Lahore, wrote from Lahore to Mirza Ghulam Murtaza: &#8216;I have perused your application reminding me of you and your family’s past services and rights. I am well aware that since the introduction of the British Government you and your family have certainly remained devoted, faithful and steady subjects and that your rights are really worthy of regard. In every respect you may rest assured and satisfied that the British Government will never forget your family rights and services which will receive due consideration when a favourable opportunity offers itself. You must continue to be faithful and devoted subjects as in it lies the satisfaction of the Government as well as your own welfare.&#8217; (Life of Ahmad by DARD pg. 17)</p>
<p>As you can see from the above quote, the British not only were indebted to the Mirza family but they were anxious to repay them for their services. Also, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad&#8217;s father and uncles were in the Sikh army as they killed other Muslims. While Muslims were being killed this Mirza family that was fighting alongside the Sikhs!</p>
<p>&#8220;He [the father of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad] then, with his brothers, entered the army of the Maharaja, and performed efficient service on the Kashmir frontier and at other places.&#8221; (Life of Ahmad by Dard pg. 16)</p>
<p>Mirza Ghulam Ahmad&#8217;s brother: &#8220;General Nicholson gave Ghulam Qadir a certificate, stating that in 1857 the Qadian family showed greater loyalty than any other in the district.&#8221; (pg. 17)</p>
<p>WE CAN WHAT WE WILL DO&#8212;CIRCA 1883</p>


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