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	<description>Inviting from Ahmadiyya to Islam</description>
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		<title>Comment on Dealing with the Modern Crisis: Islam vs Ahmadiyya by Rationalist</title>
		<link>http://thecult.info/blog/2012/01/28/dealing-with-the-modern-crisis-islam-vs-ahmadiyya/comment-page-1/#comment-27520</link>
		<dc:creator>Rationalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 19:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Basil 

Your ideas are awesome.  Insha-allah we will be able to implement them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Basil </p>
<p>Your ideas are awesome.  Insha-allah we will be able to implement them.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Dealing with the Modern Crisis: Islam vs Ahmadiyya by xiaahmad</title>
		<link>http://thecult.info/blog/2012/01/28/dealing-with-the-modern-crisis-islam-vs-ahmadiyya/comment-page-1/#comment-27518</link>
		<dc:creator>xiaahmad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 08:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes these are good ideas

I hope brother Shahid, Farhan Hussain will think about these idea

specially another domain name and PDF of articles</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes these are good ideas</p>
<p>I hope brother Shahid, Farhan Hussain will think about these idea</p>
<p>specially another domain name and PDF of articles</p>
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		<title>Comment on Dealing with the Modern Crisis: Islam vs Ahmadiyya by Tahir Hussain</title>
		<link>http://thecult.info/blog/2012/01/28/dealing-with-the-modern-crisis-islam-vs-ahmadiyya/comment-page-1/#comment-27517</link>
		<dc:creator>Tahir Hussain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 00:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Masha&#039;Allah, good article bro.

&quot;Every saint has a past and every sinner has a future.&quot;  I like that...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Masha&#8217;Allah, good article bro.</p>
<p>&#8220;Every saint has a past and every sinner has a future.&#8221;  I like that&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Dealing with the Modern Crisis: Islam vs Ahmadiyya by Basil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Basil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 19:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Asalamu Alaykum wa Rahmatullah:

Dear Brother Farhan, Shahid, and Waqar:

I follow this blog regularly, as we have a large Ahmadiyyah - Qadiani temple here in Calgary, AB, Canada. Firstly, JazakAllah Khair to every contributer of this blog. Allah grant you all ikhlas, sincerity, and raise your ranks on day of judgement for refuting falsehood. I hope to see your efforts recognized by more Qadianis. Having said that, I do have three pieces of advice from your younger and less-knowledgeable brother if you don&#039;t mind. Because I want to ensure that these works benefit both ignorant Sunni Muslims who are being attacked and questioned by Qadiani&#039;s and Qadiani&#039;s in an identity crisis, who are soul searching after they are starting to realize their cult has cracks. My three pieces of advice are:

1) Mirror this site to another domain name, such as: Ahmadiyyah-answers.com. Why? Because imagine I meet a Qadiani randomly, and I do, what do I tell them? Please visit this site called &quot;TheCult.com&quot; - that would totally put them off immediately. The content on your site and blog is phenomenal, and you should keep this domain name, but mirror it to one that Qadiani&#039;s are more likely to visit and more curious to know about.

2) Compose a book, with the intention to have it published. Find a publisher through this list: onlineislamicbookstore.com. You have so much info on this site, I would hate to see it go to waste. What needs to happen, is someone needs to sit down, organize it, revise it, add the best examples and analogies, and then have it approved by local Imams from the Gulf, Subcontinent, and North Africa. I think any Imam who knows about the Qadianis and their big satelite channels would really appreciate the work you guys are going. 

3) Don&#039;t be afraid to get more into Multimedia. I love to watch videos, and I think more people are just likely to be reached by videos. So think of putting something together on YouTube with graphics and all that.

4) Keep your intentions sincere, and don&#039;t ever stop asking Allah to grant you ikhlaas and to benefit your dawah and to see the fruits of it in this life and the next.

I think keep going brothers. Obviously, I said a lot, and it won&#039;t be easy to do, but perhaps you have a network now, since this has been going over the years, in which you have some human resources. If you don&#039;t take any suggestions, I&#039;m still happy that you&#039;ve gone this far, and sad that I can&#039;t contribute more :)

Your brother in Islam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Asalamu Alaykum wa Rahmatullah:</p>
<p>Dear Brother Farhan, Shahid, and Waqar:</p>
<p>I follow this blog regularly, as we have a large Ahmadiyyah &#8211; Qadiani temple here in Calgary, AB, Canada. Firstly, JazakAllah Khair to every contributer of this blog. Allah grant you all ikhlas, sincerity, and raise your ranks on day of judgement for refuting falsehood. I hope to see your efforts recognized by more Qadianis. Having said that, I do have three pieces of advice from your younger and less-knowledgeable brother if you don&#8217;t mind. Because I want to ensure that these works benefit both ignorant Sunni Muslims who are being attacked and questioned by Qadiani&#8217;s and Qadiani&#8217;s in an identity crisis, who are soul searching after they are starting to realize their cult has cracks. My three pieces of advice are:</p>
<p>1) Mirror this site to another domain name, such as: Ahmadiyyah-answers.com. Why? Because imagine I meet a Qadiani randomly, and I do, what do I tell them? Please visit this site called &#8220;TheCult.com&#8221; &#8211; that would totally put them off immediately. The content on your site and blog is phenomenal, and you should keep this domain name, but mirror it to one that Qadiani&#8217;s are more likely to visit and more curious to know about.</p>
<p>2) Compose a book, with the intention to have it published. Find a publisher through this list: onlineislamicbookstore.com. You have so much info on this site, I would hate to see it go to waste. What needs to happen, is someone needs to sit down, organize it, revise it, add the best examples and analogies, and then have it approved by local Imams from the Gulf, Subcontinent, and North Africa. I think any Imam who knows about the Qadianis and their big satelite channels would really appreciate the work you guys are going. </p>
<p>3) Don&#8217;t be afraid to get more into Multimedia. I love to watch videos, and I think more people are just likely to be reached by videos. So think of putting something together on YouTube with graphics and all that.</p>
<p>4) Keep your intentions sincere, and don&#8217;t ever stop asking Allah to grant you ikhlaas and to benefit your dawah and to see the fruits of it in this life and the next.</p>
<p>I think keep going brothers. Obviously, I said a lot, and it won&#8217;t be easy to do, but perhaps you have a network now, since this has been going over the years, in which you have some human resources. If you don&#8217;t take any suggestions, I&#8217;m still happy that you&#8217;ve gone this far, and sad that I can&#8217;t contribute more <img src='http://thecult.info/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Your brother in Islam</p>
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		<title>Comment on Dealing with the Modern Crisis: Islam vs Ahmadiyya by Rationalist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rationalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 19:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In conclusion, I would like to refer to a book written by Muhammad Elyas Burney in 1955 as he tangled with the Ahmadi hierarchy:

&quot;Let it be noted that Qadianism is not the first movement of its kind, arrogating prophethood for its founder, with the natural consequence to split up Islam.  There have been several such movements before, some of them more elevated, morally and intellectually, than Qadianism, but they all passed away like floods, leaving landmarks in the history of Islam&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In conclusion, I would like to refer to a book written by Muhammad Elyas Burney in 1955 as he tangled with the Ahmadi hierarchy:</p>
<p>&#8220;Let it be noted that Qadianism is not the first movement of its kind, arrogating prophethood for its founder, with the natural consequence to split up Islam.  There have been several such movements before, some of them more elevated, morally and intellectually, than Qadianism, but they all passed away like floods, leaving landmarks in the history of Islam&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ahmadiyya and the Era of Sectarianism by R.O.L.</title>
		<link>http://thecult.info/blog/2012/01/18/ahmadiyya-and-the-era-of-sectarianism/comment-page-1/#comment-27510</link>
		<dc:creator>R.O.L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 08:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Assalamu Aleikum brother,

After reading over your post I will respectfully say that I do believe you are not understanding the point that  brother Farhan is getting across when he says, 

‘At this moment, the vast majority of the Muslims follow “regular Islam”, version 1.0, and are at little risk of joining the remnants of a break-away group. What does this tell us? This is not the era of sectarianism or schisms. ‘Aqidah problems are rarely the immediate issue with contemporary Muslims. The debates are over, that fitnah has come and gone.’

The rock-bottm fundamental belief (aqeeda) of Muslims is that Allah is One and Muhammad (may peace and blessings always be upon him) is the last prophet and noooo other new prophet is to come afther him (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him). This is, from my understand of his writing, what Farhan is refering to as &quot;Regular Islam Version 1.0&quot;.

One would be hard pressed to find an abundance of Muslims who believe that other prophets will come after Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him). MOST Muslims, I would argue, believe that Muhammd (peace and blessings be upon him) is the LAST prophet that Allah has sent to humanity. This is the aqeeda of the majority of Muslims worldwide and this cannot be argued. The belief or &quot;aqeeda&quot; of the finality of prophethood is not something that is a primary debate in 2012. This is what Allah taught in Quran, it is what Muhammad (peace be upon him) taught the sahaba and it is what the sahaba believed and taught after the passing away of Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him). This is what we can call, &quot;Regular Islam Version 1.0&quot;

Also, the MAJORITY of Muslims worldwide believe that Isa, son of Mary (may peace be upon him) will not return to the earth as the Madhi and Isa and Krishna all rolled up into one. This is not the aqeeda of mainstream Islam. Most Muslims believe that Isa (peace be upon him) was taken by Allah into the heavens and he will return via the heavens. Most Muslims believe that the Mahdi and Isa (peace be upon him) are two separate people. This is what was taught by Muhammad (peace and blessing be upon him) and the sahaba. This, again, is what we can call &quot;Regular Islam Version 1.0&quot; 

Ahmadis do NOT believe this. They do not believe these basic aqeeda principles that have been in place since Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) was on this earth. It is as if Ghulam Ahmad came along 1400 years later and said, &quot;you know what, Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) and the sahaba (may Allah be please with them) got it all wrong! Let me show you correct aqeeda.&quot; Istagfurlah!

So dear brother, when Farhan says that  aqeeda is not the PRIMARY issue of the ummah at this time, he is, in fact correct. Now the ummah may differ on matters of fiqh (law), but, by and large, as brother Farhan stated, most Muslims follow &quot;Regular Islam Version 1.0&quot;. There really is no MAJOR disagreement in aqeeda in this day and age. Of course you will always have the little fringe group on the side who will differ, but again, our beloved prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) knew this and this is why he (peace and blessings be upon him) taught us, &quot;stick to the majority.&quot; He (peace and blessings be upon him) knew that the MAJORITY will not differ on the primary foundation of aqeeda. He (peace and blessings be upon him) knew break away groups would arrive on the seen, but again, he (peace and blessings be upon him) knew that the MAJORITY of Muslims would hold onto &quot;Regular Islam Version 1.0&quot; 

The umma has its issues and we have our problems yes, but problems in aqeeda is not at the forefront of the ummah&#039;s problems. Again, we have many problems true, but honestly, basic aqeeda is not the main problem we face. 

Brother Farhan was not saying that aqeeda is irrelevant and not important; on the contrary, he poses the opposite.  He was simply saying that mainstream Muslims really don&#039;t have aqeeda issues and Ahmadis definitely do and it is very very important that they correct it before they return to Allah.

May Allah forgive us our sins and guide us all and please let us all die as Muslims on the straight path. Ameen.
 
Anything that I have said incorrect, then I ask Allah to forgive me and if I said anything that is true, then Allah is al-Haqq and it is from Him and Allah always knows best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Assalamu Aleikum brother,</p>
<p>After reading over your post I will respectfully say that I do believe you are not understanding the point that  brother Farhan is getting across when he says, </p>
<p>‘At this moment, the vast majority of the Muslims follow “regular Islam”, version 1.0, and are at little risk of joining the remnants of a break-away group. What does this tell us? This is not the era of sectarianism or schisms. ‘Aqidah problems are rarely the immediate issue with contemporary Muslims. The debates are over, that fitnah has come and gone.’</p>
<p>The rock-bottm fundamental belief (aqeeda) of Muslims is that Allah is One and Muhammad (may peace and blessings always be upon him) is the last prophet and noooo other new prophet is to come afther him (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him). This is, from my understand of his writing, what Farhan is refering to as &#8220;Regular Islam Version 1.0&#8243;.</p>
<p>One would be hard pressed to find an abundance of Muslims who believe that other prophets will come after Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him). MOST Muslims, I would argue, believe that Muhammd (peace and blessings be upon him) is the LAST prophet that Allah has sent to humanity. This is the aqeeda of the majority of Muslims worldwide and this cannot be argued. The belief or &#8220;aqeeda&#8221; of the finality of prophethood is not something that is a primary debate in 2012. This is what Allah taught in Quran, it is what Muhammad (peace be upon him) taught the sahaba and it is what the sahaba believed and taught after the passing away of Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him). This is what we can call, &#8220;Regular Islam Version 1.0&#8243;</p>
<p>Also, the MAJORITY of Muslims worldwide believe that Isa, son of Mary (may peace be upon him) will not return to the earth as the Madhi and Isa and Krishna all rolled up into one. This is not the aqeeda of mainstream Islam. Most Muslims believe that Isa (peace be upon him) was taken by Allah into the heavens and he will return via the heavens. Most Muslims believe that the Mahdi and Isa (peace be upon him) are two separate people. This is what was taught by Muhammad (peace and blessing be upon him) and the sahaba. This, again, is what we can call &#8220;Regular Islam Version 1.0&#8243; </p>
<p>Ahmadis do NOT believe this. They do not believe these basic aqeeda principles that have been in place since Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) was on this earth. It is as if Ghulam Ahmad came along 1400 years later and said, &#8220;you know what, Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) and the sahaba (may Allah be please with them) got it all wrong! Let me show you correct aqeeda.&#8221; Istagfurlah!</p>
<p>So dear brother, when Farhan says that  aqeeda is not the PRIMARY issue of the ummah at this time, he is, in fact correct. Now the ummah may differ on matters of fiqh (law), but, by and large, as brother Farhan stated, most Muslims follow &#8220;Regular Islam Version 1.0&#8243;. There really is no MAJOR disagreement in aqeeda in this day and age. Of course you will always have the little fringe group on the side who will differ, but again, our beloved prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) knew this and this is why he (peace and blessings be upon him) taught us, &#8220;stick to the majority.&#8221; He (peace and blessings be upon him) knew that the MAJORITY will not differ on the primary foundation of aqeeda. He (peace and blessings be upon him) knew break away groups would arrive on the seen, but again, he (peace and blessings be upon him) knew that the MAJORITY of Muslims would hold onto &#8220;Regular Islam Version 1.0&#8243; </p>
<p>The umma has its issues and we have our problems yes, but problems in aqeeda is not at the forefront of the ummah&#8217;s problems. Again, we have many problems true, but honestly, basic aqeeda is not the main problem we face. </p>
<p>Brother Farhan was not saying that aqeeda is irrelevant and not important; on the contrary, he poses the opposite.  He was simply saying that mainstream Muslims really don&#8217;t have aqeeda issues and Ahmadis definitely do and it is very very important that they correct it before they return to Allah.</p>
<p>May Allah forgive us our sins and guide us all and please let us all die as Muslims on the straight path. Ameen.</p>
<p>Anything that I have said incorrect, then I ask Allah to forgive me and if I said anything that is true, then Allah is al-Haqq and it is from Him and Allah always knows best.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Dealing with the Modern Crisis: Islam vs Ahmadiyya by thisisbasil</title>
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		<dc:creator>thisisbasil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 21:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This happened to my wife. We are going through this right now. My wife&#039;s situation is more compunded by the face that her ex-husband is her cousin as well. The amount of issues she has and we are going through because of this, is unreal... and shes been divorced from him for about 10 years. We even seriously think that someone put nazr on us, but thats another story.

At the end of the day, this desi stuff is wild. If the sister needs someone to talk to, let me know Farhan and I can let my wife know.

p.s. in case you haven&#039;t caught on, I&#039;m the white guy named Basil</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This happened to my wife. We are going through this right now. My wife&#8217;s situation is more compunded by the face that her ex-husband is her cousin as well. The amount of issues she has and we are going through because of this, is unreal&#8230; and shes been divorced from him for about 10 years. We even seriously think that someone put nazr on us, but thats another story.</p>
<p>At the end of the day, this desi stuff is wild. If the sister needs someone to talk to, let me know Farhan and I can let my wife know.</p>
<p>p.s. in case you haven&#8217;t caught on, I&#8217;m the white guy named Basil</p>
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		<title>Comment on Dealing with the Modern Crisis: Islam vs Ahmadiyya by Abu Musa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abu Musa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 13:59:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was asking if its a temporary punishment - or a permanent one?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was asking if its a temporary punishment &#8211; or a permanent one?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Dealing with the Modern Crisis: Islam vs Ahmadiyya by xiaahmad</title>
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		<dc:creator>xiaahmad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 06:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In west majority Ahmadi girls dress up like normal girls (frm east) dress up there. 
so Masroor is living on some other planet it seems</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In west majority Ahmadi girls dress up like normal girls (frm east) dress up there.<br />
so Masroor is living on some other planet it seems</p>
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		<title>Comment on Dealing with the Modern Crisis: Islam vs Ahmadiyya by Samia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Samia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2012 19:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Public humiliations and public ex-communication will probably apply to this girl if she is an ahmadi!

Brother Fahan if this girl would like any moral support I am willing to help where I can, you can pass it on to her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Public humiliations and public ex-communication will probably apply to this girl if she is an ahmadi!</p>
<p>Brother Fahan if this girl would like any moral support I am willing to help where I can, you can pass it on to her.</p>
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