The Largest Mosque in Western Europe

Regents park mosque in london england

The Ahmadiyya claims to have “the largest mosque in Western Europe”. This claim was made when I was still a member of the Ahmadiyya group and of course, I repeated it without question. We were urged to promote this “fact” to newspapers, politicians and so forth. We were made to feel proud of this achievement.

What is a mosque? Can a Baha`i for example, create a building and call it a mosque? Technically, there is nothing to stop them doing that in this country. “Mosque” is the English word for the Arabic masjid, which is derived from the Arabic root sajada, for which I’m sure no Muslim requires any translation. So “masjid” is literally a place where one bows down in prostration. Linguistically then, it is legitimate for Qadianis and Lahoris to call their places of worship “mosques”, but theologically, and particularly in the case of the Qadianis, this claim is problematic, as the Muslim reserved word “masjid” is only applied to a place of congregational worship for Muslims. So whilst we don’t make takfeer on individual Qadianis, the Ummah and its `ulama are unanimously of the view that certainly the Qadiani Ahmadiyya community is not Islamic, with the views on Lahoris being only slightly less rigid, though the consensus still appears to be that they are not within the fold of Islam. A mosque then, is a place where Muslims gather in congregation to bow down in worship to Allah.

Let’s set aside the theological issue for the purposes of investigating the claim at face value. We already know that the Qadianis are in the habit of making outrageous claims that have never been substantiated in fact and sadly, their followers tend to accept and promulgate these claims without question. Most notably, the ludicrous claims of a membership of 200 million have been parroted in the Islamophobic media. The “largest mosque” claim was also shamefully cited in The Guardian, which obviously didn’t check its facts.

Let’s also ignore mosques in mainland Europe and focus only on those in Britain. The authoritative, respected, fact-checked and peerlessly  comprehensive report on British mosques by the Muslims In Britain site has this to say on the Qadiani claims that their place of worship in Morden accommodates 10,500 worshippers:

Baitul Futuh is promoted by the Ahmadiyya movement as “the largest mosque in Western Europe” based on a claim of a capacity of 10,500 worshippers. The Ahmadiyya have their own reasons for making this claim. But they admit that dedicated prayer space (on which all the above masjids’ capacities is based) is 4,000. (http://www.baitulfutuh.org/construction/index.shtml ) In fact the prayer space is comparable only to the larger masjids of circa 3,000 capacity, hence my adjusted figure of 3,000. By comparison, most larger masjids have substantial areas that are routinely used for salaah on Friday Jumu’ah, not to mention Eid and Tarawih salaahs. E.g. Regents Park Masjid (Islamic Cultural Centre) has a substantial concourse, large basement rooms and a big plaza, all of which are filled for Jumu’ah, more than doubling the 5,400 capacity dedicated prayer space.

Having visited Bait ul-Futuh when I was a Qadiani, it was certainly large, but no larger than the Birmingham Central Mosque, and certainly not as big as the Islamic Cultural Centre, which has multiple storeys available for worshippers as well as a routinely used concourse. It’s not anywhere near as big as the East London Mosque, which I have also had the pleasure of visiting frequently, especially for `Eid, and which continues to undergo expansion.

Let’s have a closer look at the Baitul Futuh site’s claims. It claims the following for prayer capacities:

  • Total Area of Mosque 4000
  • Ancillary Areas in Mosque 2000
  • Remainder of other Areas 4500

These appear to be exaggerations, notwithstanding the fact that the capacity is rarely utilised. So what about authentic mosques?

Britain s Largest Mosques

(Source: http://www.muslimsinbritain.org/resources/masjid_report.pdf)

The Qadiani place of worship comes at the bottom of this list. So the next time someone tells you that the Qadiani place of worship is “the largest mosque in Western Europe”, don’t just tell them that it isn’t a mosque, offer them the facts, and if they’re really interested and you’re in London, take them on a tour of proper mosques and show them that Islam doesn’t require deception. Just don’t be surprised if the Qadianis revert to type and indulge in character assassination of the people behind the above report. 

May Allah guide the believers in Mirza Ghulam Ahmad back to Islam, insha’Allah, blessing them with the guidance I received eight Ramadans ago.

 

 

Dealing with the Modern Crisis: Islam vs Ahmadiyya

بسم الله الحمد لله و صلاة و سلم على رسول الله و على آله و سلم

The morality preached by both Muslims and Ahmadis is generally the same. Both communities are affected by a pervasive, attractive and in many ways deeply negative culture that tends to leads them away from the noble teachings that they are imbued with.

The result is an entire generation of youth who, even if their identity as Muslim or Ahmadi, still engage in the harmful and sinful behaviors of their larger cultural context. The leadership of these respective communities feel obligated to call their youth back.

Here are their approaches:

The Official Ahmadiyya Approach

  1. Mirza Masroor threatening to “kick out” young women who find it difficult to cover: Video available here. And if you “challenge” him, you’re a hypocrite.
  2. Spying and gossip about wayward youth (Leaked reports here)
  3. Public humiliations and ex-communications for people who engage in sinful behavior, justified in Tariq Magazine (Full Transcript here)
  4. Ban Facebook: The exact statement is “The practice of making and maintaining individual facebook pages/accounts is not permitted.“ http://www.alislam.org/egazette/faq/facebook-policy/
  5. “Desi Uncle knows best” immaturity to modern problems.


The General Muslim Approach

Ustadh Nouman Ali Khan gives a wonderful presentation where he illustrates the Crisis of Faith and Confidence affecting the Muslim community. I’ll be honest, he’s brutal. If you’re an Ahmadi looking to bash Muslim communities, you’ll find plenty of fodder here.

But listen to the maturity and the depth of thought this one Muslim presents that puts Mirza Masroor’s lack of intellectualism to shame. For example, regarding Ahmadiyya’s “Ban Facebook” approach, Khan argues that Facebook is not the problem, it is merely a symptom of a larger problem. By simply banning Facebook, you will merely create an “Everything is haraam” mentality.

Instead, his solutions are:

  • Create A Culture Around Strong Friendship
  • Create an Open Forum
  • Internalization, Then Islamic Knowledge
  • Psychological Crisis Among Older Youth
  • Studying Islam in Secular Universities
  • Equipping Our Youth to Leave Being Defensive

The full talk is available here:The transcript is available here (Thanks MuslimMatters!)

And this is just one example, other organizations, institutions and individuals are rising to the challenge to address these problems.

Conclusion

Both the Muslim and the Ahmadiyya communities are facing the same crisis. One of them addresses it by ex-communications, public humiliations, spying, banning Facebook, and the “Holier than Thou” approach. The other deals with the root problems and posits positive, constructive solutions, and calls back wayward Muslims.

Which do you believe in?

و صلى الله على سيدنا محمد و على آله محمد

Islamophobia is the Politics of the Ahmadiyya Cult

Ahmadiyya times smears Suliman Gani

Introduction

I was alerted to a story in the Ahmadiyya Times blog today that risibly depicts Shaykh Suliman Gani as an extremist. I think that this warrants a libel claim against the editor of the Ahmadiyya Times. It wouldn’t be the first time that the Ahmadiyya/Qadiani cult has used extreme language to describe Muslims or their representative bodies, but on this occasion, they appear to be nailing their colours to the mast of a shadowy new group called “Student Rights“. Interestingly, Student Rights stops short of labelling Shaykh Suliman, one of the gentlest, most humane people I’ve ever met as an extremist, but the Qadiani hate group, the only “religion” in the world with the word “hate” in their slogan and the only one that bans its members from using Facebook, was not so concerned about the use of the word “Extremist” in the headline of their edited piece.

The Student Rights article describes the views of a billion Muslims that the Qadiani cult is outside Islam as “bigoted”. Good luck with that one! It’s hardly a controversial position, being held by every Muslim authority on the planet. Since when does the normative tradition of any religion have to justify which heretical group it does and doesn’t include? Such sensationalist trash belongs in the gutter, like the defunct News of the World.

This piece might as well have been written by Basha Nazir, the Qadiani PR man caught with his pants down trying to get his members to lie to Channel 4 about their identity. This was in a vain attempt to game Darshna Soni in the wake of their failed hate campaign of 2010, based on a leaflet that didn’t exist. In fact, many releases we have seen lazy journalists and politicians use have come straight from the pens of the Qadiani spin-masters. If only journalists and politicians did a little more homework.

Curious about this new, somewhat opaque group and its unusual eagerness to attack mainstream Muslim figures like Shaykh Suliman Gani and Hamza Andreas Tzortzis, I decided to look more closely at their board of advisors. You might be surprised at what crawled out of the woodwork, but then again, perhaps not.

The first question we surely must ask is, of what relevance is Islamophobia to student rights? The naming of this oddball site is one of many anomalies. One can only imagine that “student rights” acts as an overt façade for Islamophobia, because let’s face it, Muslim students are British too, and also have rights. Perhaps the Islamophobic, Qado-Zionist-sympathising board of Student Rights might be interested in the rights of Qadiani students ordered by their leaders not to mix with Muslim students at university? That’d be worth a blog on social cohesion.Or perhaps they might be interested in the old men of the Ahmadiyya covertly spying on students?

I think it’s very important that Muslims become aware of this shadowy hate group and understand that the agenda of the Zionists, the Islamophobes, the Extreme Right and the Qadiani Ahmadiyya is aligned. If you need to see proof of that, you need only visit the Student Rights blog, which frankly, makes Mad Mel look, well, not so mad.

I’m sure Hamza Tzortzis will not be worried by this stupid bunch of clowns, and neither should Shaykh Suliman. All that’s happened is that this group has helped clarify that the Qadiani agenda is reprehensible to all Muslims. Thanks to Student Rights for making this crystal clear!

Hilariously, the Student Rights blog carries on with its absurd canards about the Islam Channel and other mainstream Muslim representatives, denouncing many of our leading figures and conflating them arbitrarily and clumsily to more extreme figures.

On then, to a quick analysis of the board of Student Rights.

Rt Hon Jim Fitzpatrick MP

Jim Fitzpatrick, a Government minister, has publicly condemned the Muslim tradition of separating men and women at weddings. The farming minister and his wife walked out of the marriage ceremony of a constituent after discovering they would have to sit in separate rooms. He said the gender segregation was a sign of increasing radicalisation and was damaging to social cohesion.

However, Muslim leaders insist the custom is traditional at Islamic weddings as well as in mosques, and expressed surprise that Mr Fitzpatrick, a third of whose east London constituents are Muslims, was unaware of the fact.

Sir Iqbal Sacranie, a founding member of the Muslim Council of Britain, said:

“I think in the interest of cohesion it would be better if Mr Fitzpatrick established more contact with the Muslim community. It shows a lack of interest on the part of the MP to engage with people with different backgrounds and sadly it reflects badly on him.

Source: Daily Telegraph

Even the right wing Telegraph condemned Fitzpatrick’s actions as “foolish and inappropriate

George Galloway went further:

“I am absolutely amazed and astonished that a Government minister with a substantial Muslim minority in his constituency should have decided to give such a gratuitous insult to so many Muslims.”

The Ahmadiyya do not allow mixed weddings themselves. Perhaps they should think twice before backing Student Rights. Or perhaps Fitzpatrick, who advises a site so firmly on the side of the deceptive Ahmadiyya cult, should be advised as to the the latter’s real nature? (Perhaps he should just be very careful what he puts his name to, if he wants to avoid future accusations of Islamophobia.)

Fitzpatrick of course rejects accusations of Islamophobia and as recently as 2010 asked the Muslim community to judge him on his record. It’s entirely possible that he was misrepresented or given bad advice. In which case, he needs to be made aware of the extremely divisive agenda of Student Watch and to understand that the figures this group is attacking are mainstream. Baroness Warsi was courageous enough to stand up to this type of scaremongering and warned against having Muslims divided into extremists and moderates. This approach legitimises caricatures and stereotypes and allows the question “So when did you stop beating your wife?” to be asked without concern. The Ahmadiyya should be utterly ashamed of peddling such hatred and continuing its smear campaign, but it’s no surprise, as Muslims have continually warned.

My personal feeling is that Fitzpatrick should have it brought to his attention that Student Rights would not have the backing of any legitimate Muslim representation. He would find that his own East London community would be shocked to find him on the board of such a virulently anti-Muslim organisation that is also so openly pro-Qadiani.

 

Rt Hon Tom Brake MP

Brake is the MP for Carshalton and Wallington, where many of his constituents are Qadianis. He has attended their annual Jalsa Salana event on several occasions and is totally supportive of their offensive Islamophobic campaign. Like a few other gullible politicians, he was taken in by the opportunistic hate campaign orchestrated by the Qadianis in 2010, where it was found that false statements had been made (on oath!) by the Ahmadiyya, and which ended up making the Qadianis look duplicitous in the eyes of the police. Brake hosted a tour of the House of Commons for the Lahori Ahmadiyya. His bias is therefore self-evident.

 

Robert Halfon MP

Halfon, a Tory MP is a former Political Director of the Conservative Friends of Israel. We could stop right there, but let’s continue. Halfon is no stranger to launching attacks on Muslims or their representation. Inayat Bunglawala reported Halfon making the following disgusting and defamatory accusation about the Muslim advocacy group Engage in the House of Commons:

“Will the Leader of the House find time for an urgent statement on iEngage, the secretariat of the newly formed all-party parliamentary group on Islamophobia? iEngage has a track record of being aggressively anti-Semitic and homophobic, and has extensive links with terrorism in Tunisia and the middle east.”

Inayat correctly reported that Halfon can only get away with such statements because he was protected from libel by parliamentary privilege.

Inayat has challenged Halfon in strong terms to repeat his comments in public. Halfon is an Islamophobic monster who would find much in common with the Ahmadiyya cult’s chief apologists.

 

Rt Hon Kim Howells

Dr. Kim Howells is a Labour Friend of Israel. Spotting a pattern here? Pro-Israeli, Pro-Qadiani, anti-Muslim haters and possibly one or two unwitting cohorts who got suckered in without realising what was going on.

MPACUK reported in 2009 that Howells suggested the government use the money it would save by pulling troops out of Afghanistan and Iraq to spy on Muslims. One should remember that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, the founder of the Ahmadiyya cult offered his spying services to the occupying government of the time.

 

Rt Hon Denis MacShane

It’s hard to know where to start with this nutty Zionist attack dog, but Inayat Bunglawala nails this confirmed Zionist for a lot more than Zionism and Islamophobia. This offensive man with zero credibility amongst Muslims and millions of others was also found to have claimed £125k in MP expenses for his garage. Why didn’t this hater end up in jail? Probably because Zionism got to his head and made him completely nuts.

Halfon isn’t the only MP abusing parliamentary privilege to spread lies. MacShane also smeared MPACUK earlier in 2011.

It’s not just Muslims who have problems with this crazy guy, our Jewish friends do too.

 

Shiraz Maher

A good background on Maher can be found at Indigo Jo Blogs in the article Shiraz Maher fails to prove his point (again)

Engage shows Maher criticising the US Ambassador for visiting the East Lonon Mosque.

Maher, who sports a trademark Qadiani beard (don’t worry, I don’t actually think he’s a Qadiani) supported Hazel Blears in her unprecedented and stupid war against the MCB in the wake of Israel’s assault on the people of Gaza in 2009. Maher then demanded the resignation of Daud Abdullah, sounding just like a Qadiani, a Chaa-wala to use Asghar Bukhari’s interesting metaphor.

A pretty good picture of Maher is painted by his friends and the company he is associated with, including the likes of Ed Husain, who after leaving the discredited Quilliam, now works for the Council on Foreign Relations. Maher counts amongst his admirers The Sun’s Trevor Kavanagh. (The Sun of course, recently apologised for faking a story about a Muslim bus driver, not the first time they’ve invented negative stories about Muslims in an attempt to fan Islamophobia.)

One wonders whether the Qadianis will also at some point apologise for inventing the story of a a hate leaflet in 2010 that acted as a driver for their Islamophobic campaign of 2010, brought crashing to a halt thanks to numerous embarrasing leaks on thecult.info and the brave and upright work done by Akber Choudhry in defending the Khatmenabuwwah Academy in East London. Many Muslims took part in exposing the underhand shenanigans of the Qadianis and they would be too numerous to list, but they know who they are and they are a credit to Muslims and to Britain.

 

Lord Palmer of Childs Hill

He was the Chair of the Liberal Democrat Friends of Israel until 2010 and is currently a Vice President. I think we can end the discussion right there, don’t you?

 

Daniel Johnson

(We’d be grateful if anyone could source information on Johnson for us.)

 

Dr Alan Mendoza

Mendoza and Ramm appear together an awful lot with Douglas Murray, who made this contribution to social cohesion and harmony at a conference in the Netherlands in 2006:

“It is late in the day, but Europe still has time to turn around the demographic time-bomb which will soon see a number of our largest cities fall to Muslim majorities. It has to. All immigration into Europe from Muslim countries must stop…. Conditions for Muslims in Europe must be made harder across the board: Europe must look like a less attractive proposition.”

Far be it for me to use “guilt by association” as a tactic. let’s delve further into Mendoza specifically. He is the Executive Director of The Henry Jackson Society, which includes as signatories the Rt Hon Michael Gove (an Islamophobe), Denis MacShane (Zionist, expenses monkey, liar and Islamophobe), Stephen Pollard (Editor, the Jewish Chronicle) and our friend Robert Halfon MP, whose Islamophobic credentials were established above.

Mendoza came down heavily in favour of Israel, casting them as peacemakers in the wake of their horrific assault on Lebanon in 2006.

Google Mendoza, Ramm and Murray to hear them whine on if you’re really curious.

 

Benjamin Ramm

I haven’t looked too hard on material for him, but Lenin had this to say in 2005:

The editor of The Liberal, Ben Ramm, was the most unbearable speaker of the whole night. Snide, cocky and actually insistent on a return to Free Trade – Victorian England style! Why he was invited, I shall never know. He was uncompromisingly for the Liberal Democrats, of course, and was heckled by those who are familiar with the Liberal record in Sheffield, Liverpool and elsewhere. I tuned out.

Now we can’t condemn a man for being snide and cocky, after all, I’ve been that too at times. What we can condemn a man for is a return to Free Trade Victorian England style. This was uncompromising and made Thatcherism look like revolutionary socialism in comparison.

However, his position on Islam and Zionism isn’t clear, so he gets let off the hook. I guess he’s in because he hangs out with the Zionist Mendoza and the Islamophobe Murray.

 

Alex Radzyner

Radzyner is the writer of the ‘London Theater Goer’ blog.

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Conclusion

So there you have it. A list of mostly rather unsavoury characters to say the least. As to who actually writes the Student Rights blog, it’s hard to tell, but given the list above and the brazenly pro-Qadiani agenda, given the heavy Zionist influences and the cast of usual suspects, it’s very easy to see why Qadiani Ahmadiyya is regarded with such suspicion by Muslims and anyone who stands against racism, right-wing extremism and Islamophobia. After all, it was very much the rhetoric displayed by the Student Rights team that led to Anders Breivik mass murdering dozens of kids in Norway.

Given the utter lack of mainstream credibility that “Student Rights” will get thanks to the extreme positions taken up by the majority of its board, I’d advise the targets of this farcical blog-rag not to worry too much about its hysterical, frothing, but really funny output.  I’d also advise a few of the board members who value their remaining credibility to distance themselves from this hateful site.

It’s time for the Qadianis and their friends to stop being troublemakers, to stop telling lies, to stop exaggerating the so-called “Muslim threat” and to start building bridges. I doubt they will do that. They, like many cohesion-haters, including the far right, Islamophobes and Zionists seek to divide communities by creating a false picture of hatred and seeing monsters where there aren’t any. There is little doubt that groups like the Ahmadiyya cult help to stoke the fear that inspired Anders Breivik to kill scores of Norwegian socialist children in a chillingly political massacre, a crime that is more popularly described as terrorism. We mustn’t let such groups deceive our institutions and we mustn’t let them attack our representative bodies without an answer.

 

(Thanks to Islamophobia Watch and Engage, many of the above stories were documented by them)

(A previous version of this article stated the following: Brake hosted a tour of the House of Commons for the Ahmadiyya – after feedback, we have clarified this line to qualify Ahmadiyya with “Lahori”.)

Qadiani Jesus

On Christmas Day, I attended the “Arise and Warn” event at the Memon Centre in South London, hosted by iERA. There I met Shaykh Suliman Gani, who invited me to give a talk at the Tooting Islamic Centre on Boxing Day. I accepted. Here is a large extract of that talk, but for the full version, properly recorded and edited, I recommend that you wait for the version filmed by MessageTV, in which you will find the proper beginning and full ending. For now, this should serve as a taster.

My apologies for the rustiness, I had not much time to prepare and this was my first public talk in quite a while.

Please note that the video source is 720p, so going full-screen should give you reasonable quality insha’Allah.

[Update: January 2, 2012, 2:39 PM - the server is getting hammered through demand, so we are uploading the video elsewhere to make the streaming experience a bit better, insha'Allah]

[Update: January 2, 2012, 4:42 PM] – we are still getting reports of slow streaming speed, so we have removed the video and we will fix the error and repost within the next 6 hours insha’Allah, thanks for your patience in the meantime]

[Update: January 2, 2012, 10:15 PM] – good news – the video has been shrunk a little and uploaded to a faster server, it should be OK now, insha’Allah]

[Update: February 25, 2012, 4:24PM] – the video is now from The Message TV, jazkallah khayran to all of the brothers there]


Chanda: An Introduction to Financial Sacrifice

بسم الله الحمد لله و صلاة و سلام على رسول الله و على آله و سلم بسليما

Lets talk about Chanda! But first, a word from our sponsors:

اتَّبِعُوا مَن لَّا يَسْأَلُكُمْ أَجْرًا وَهُم مُّهْتَدُونَ
Follow those who do not ask of you [any] payment, and they are [rightly] guided.
Surah Yasin, Verse 21


The Prophet Muhammad صلى الله عليه و سلم directed us to pay 2.5% of one’s end of year savings. This is the absolute minimum Allah has commanded us to give, which is distributed directly to the poor, not even to the Prophet صلى الله عليه و سلم. While giving is good, and truly necessary in some circumstances, the Prophet صلى الله عليه و سلم never made a general mandate to give money except to the poor.

However, the Ahmadiyya faith has created a new law: Chanda. Often described as a “financial sacrifice”, Chanda is a fee paid by all Ahmadis merely for being Ahmadi. This fee, a tithe, is given directly to the religious authorities. Tithes were not a practice of the Prophet Muhammad صلى الله عليه و سلم, and thus constitutes a new religious innovation – a new law created in the faith, despite the claim that Mirza Ghulam was a “non-law-bearing” prophet.
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Al Jazeera Stream

بسم الله الحمد لله و صلاة و سلام على رسول الله و على آله و سلم تسليما

In light of the Al-Jazeera programme tomorrow, we anticipate an increase in traffic to this site, especially from first time readers. If you’ve come here looking for some information on the other side of the Ahmadiyya, here is a short-list of interesting pieces:

1. Facebook/Social Media (Freedom of Speech)
Ahmadiyya leadership bans Facebook and other social media sites:
2. Child Privacy Concerns
Ahmadiyya use spies to snoop on children in their lifelong indoctrination programme:

3. Ahmadiyya Television Misdeeds and leaks

4. Self censorship: Controlling speech by only allowing official spokespeople to talk about Ahmadiyya in public

5. Humiliating public mass boycott:

6. Ahmadiyya Times founder calls for INCREASED drone strikes on Pakistan:

7. Ahmadiyya rejects the Arab Spring by declaring protest marches “haram” (forbidden)

8. Ahmadiyya makes its poorer members pay 10% of their benefits in cult tax

Follow @AhmadiyyaCult, @Ahmadi_Flyer, @AJStream and @MuslimID on Twitter for further information.
May Allah continue to guide Ahmadis away from Ahmadiyya and to Islam
و صلى الله رسول الله و على آله و سلم

480,000 people convert to Ahmadiyya?

 بسم الله الحمد لله و صلاة و سلام على رسول الله و على آله و سلم

Mirza Masroor recently claimed that 480,000 people converted to Ahmadiyya this year alone. I’m sure that was met with excitement and joy. Lets analyze.

Here are their reported conversion statistics between 1993 and 2001.

1993 – 204,308
1994 – 421,753
1995 – 847,725
1996 – 1,602,721
1997 – 3,004,575
1998 – 5,004,591
1999 – 10,820,226
2000 – 41,308,376
2001 – 81,007,631 – Yes, they reported 81 million converts in 2001
2002 – 20,654,000
(source: http://www.qern.org/wiki/display/qarchives/The+200+Million+Figure, removed from the official website)

Notice they reported that their numbers were routinely doubling every year. In 2001 alone, they allegedly doubled their entire population. The rumored reason for the sudden drop was because a tribal chief became an Ahmadi, so it was presumed that his entire tribe followed suit.

This year, Mirza Masroor claimed 480,000 conversations, around the same number who converted in 1994. I’m not saying he’s lying, this could be accurate. But, given that they have played numbers games, it does seem highly suspect.

Just some things to think about:

  1. If a chief leader converted to Ahmadiyya, it was merely presumed that the entire tribe followed suit;
  2. Why is it that this faith reports millions upon millions of worldwide of adherents, and is growing beyond all conceivable leaps and bounds, yet is largely unheard of outside academia and the Indo-Pak community?
  3. When people leave Ahmadiyya, even if publicly or en masse, they are maintained on the Tajneed list;
  4. Between 1995 to 2005, despite boasting millions of converts, an internal leaked document revealed that in the UK they only secured 218 converts to Ahmadiyya; whereas Islam has spread quite rapidly.
  5. For a faith that claims its about quality not quantity, they sure do a good job of boasting their numbers!

About a decade ago, if someone embraced Islam at our masjid, there were jubilant shouts of takbeer, hugs, exchanges of contact information and invitations for dinner. We still have that, but now now so many people convert to Islam that its, frankly, routine. Its not uncommon at all, easily several times a week. Its not something we boast about or advertise either. Instead, we have our New Muslims Support group (which other masjids are copying now) and keep doing what we’re doing.

To our Ahmadi readers, think for yourself, use your God-given mind, and question the Murabbis. May Allah bless us all.

و صلى الله رسول الله

Leadership Crisis in Ahmadiyya

(This post originally contained a link to a picture. After further internal discussion and potential third party legal implications, we have decided to remove that link)

We have recently been exposed to a leaked picture of the Qaid of Hertfordshire in what appears to be a nightclub, the details of which we have decided not to discuss.

What the Qaid gets up to in his own time is his business. We’re not passing judgment on him. And yes, we know that Muslims get up to this kind of thing too. So let’s get this clear from the outset. Nobody is claiming moral superiority here. What we’re calling out is the hate speech of the Ahmadiyya when the facts show that they are morally no different to any other strand in society, which just leaves the cult aspect. Frankly, if Ahmadis aren’t saved, what do they need to pay a cult for?
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