Hadith & Alleged Death of Jesus -12 (Statement of Hassan (ra) at Kufa)

Today I write about narration used by Murabbis to play with the beliefs of common Ahmadis. It is a statement of Hassan bin ‘Ali (RA) recorded in Tabaqat al-Kubra of Ibn Sa’d. It is used in an attempt to prove the death of ‘Eisa (AS). According to the statement as put on an Ahmadi website[1]:

At the eve of death of Ali (RA), Imam Hassan (RA) while addressing the people said: ‘Ali (RA) died the night Jesus’ soul ascended i.e. 27th night of Ramadan. (Tabaqat Ibn Sa’d vol.3 p.39)

The Truth:

Let’s discuss the actual wording, authentic and various versions of the narration. Ibn Sa’d’s narration goes as:

أخبرنا عبد الله بن نمير عن الأجلح عن أبي إسحاق عن هبيرة بن يريم قال: لما توفي علي بن أبي طالب قام الحسن بن علي فصعد المنبر فقال: أيها الناس …ولقد قبض في الليلة التي عرج فيها بروح عيسى بن مريم ليلة سبع وعشرين من رمضان

‘Abdullah bin Numayr narrated to me from Al-Ajlah, [he] from Abi Ishaq, [he] from Habira bin Yarbam who narrated: When ‘Ali bin Abi Talib  (RA) died, Hassan bin ‘Ali stood and went to the pulpit, then he said: ‘O people! … Verily he has died that night the soul of ‘Eisa  (AS) was ascended, the 27th night of Ramadan.’ (Tabaqat Ibn Sa’d 3/39 Chapter on Abdul Rahman ibn Maljam)

This narration has quite a number of problems:

1- In its chain is the narrator Al-Ajlah bin ‘Abdullah who has been criticized by the scholars. Hafiz Ibn Hajr quotes the opinions of various scholars about him;

Ibn Abi Hatim said: ‘He is not strong. Write his narrations but do not seek evidence with them.’

Nasai said: ‘Weak! He has nothing’

Abu Dawud said: ‘[He is] Weak’

Jozjani said: ‘[He is a] Liar’

(Tehzib Al-Tehzib 1/166 Entry 353)

Infact Ibn Sa’d who quoted this narration termed him extremely weak. After giving his basic bio-data he writes:

وكان ضعيفا جدا

‘And he is extremely weak.’ (Tabaqat Ibn Sa’d 6/350)

Hence the narration is extremely weak even according to the judgment of the author of the book.

2- The narration with this particular wording is unreliable as it contradicts another narration on similar lines reported by trustworthy narrators. We read in Al-Hakim’s collection;

حدثنا الأستاذ أبو الوليد الهيثم بن خلف الدوري ، ثنا سوار بن عبد الله العنبري ، ثنا المعتمر قال : قال أبي : حدثنا الحريث بن مخشي ، أن عليا قتل صبيحة إحدى وعشرين من رمضان ، قال : فسمعت الحسن بن علي يقول ، وهو يخطب وذكر مناقب علي ، فقال : « قتل ليلة أنزل القرآن ، وليلة أسري  بعيسى ، وليلة قبض موسى »

Abu Al-Waleed Al-Haitham narrated from Sawar bin ‘Abdullah Al-Anbari; he said, Mu’tamar narrated to us; he said: ‘My father said’; Harith bin Makhshi narrated: ‘Ali (RA) was murdered the morning of 21st Ramadan. He said; I heard Hassan bin ‘Ali (RA) speaking. He was making an address and talking of the virtues of ‘Ali (RA); he said: ‘He has been killed the night Qur’an was revealed, the night ‘Eisa (AS) was moved and the night Musa (AS) died.’ (Mustadrak Hakim, Hadith 4671. Hakim said it is Sahih)

Now this narration uses the word أسري which means to traverse a path, to make displacement. This certainly refers to his physical  ascension to the heavens.

Also note that the contrast of this word to the that used for Musa (AS). Had he died a natural death, there was no reason to use the word with the markedly different implication.

Lest one may ask as to the al-Dhahbi’s comment on this Hadith for we know he declared many of the narrations authenticated by al-Hakim as dubious, and recently we considered one such example, I shall clarify that al-Dhahbi did not comment on this narration. And scholars say that a narration of al-Hakim’s Mustadrak on which al-Dhahbi does not comment is Hasan in status if not criticized by others. (See Shaykh Abdul Fattah Abu Ghoddah’s Qawa’id fi ‘Uloom al-Hadith p. 71, pub. Idara al-Qur’an wa ‘Uloom al-Islamia, Karachi)

Same narration has been quoted by Jalaluddin Suyuti in Durr Manthur 2/348 under Qur’an 3:54-57

Obviously the second narration which has been authenticated by the scholars must be considered and first one stands rejected because of its weak chain and difference with the authentic narration. And the second narration does not give any hint to what Ahmadis suggest. Infact it testifies to the contrary.

3- Interestingly Imam Nasai who termed a key narrator of the narration in question as weak and Imam Hakim and Suyuti who have quoted and authenticated the other narration have all been recognized as Mujaddids by Ahmadis.

Thus no authentic narration supports the Ahmadi contention.

Similar narrations from Shi’a sources:

4- Here are some narrations of the similar import from Shi’a sources;

In Biharul Anwar of Allama Muhammad Baqir al-Majlasi it is reported;

عن حبيب بن عمرو قال : لما توفي أمير المؤمنين عليه السلام قام الحسن عليه السلام خطيبا فقال : أيها الناس في هذه الليلة رفع عيسى بن مريم .

Narrated Habib bin ‘Amr: ‘When the Commander of the Faithful passed away, Hassan stood and spoke. He said, ‘O you people! On this night ‘Eisa ibn Maryam was raised.’ (Biharul Anwar vol.14 p.335)

Another narration says;

عن أبي بصير ، عن أبي عبدالله عليه السلام قال : قال أبوجعفر عليه السلام : لما كانت الليلة التي قتل فيها علي عليه السلام لم يرفع عن وجه الارض حجر إلا وجد تحته دم عبيط حتى طلع الفجر ، وكذلك كانت الليلة التي قتل فيها يوشع بن نون عليه السلام ، و كذلك كانت الليلة التي رفع فيها عيسى بن مريم عليه السلام وكذلك الليلة التي قتل فيها الحسين عليه السلام

Narrated Abi Baseer from Abu Abdullah (A.S.), he said:  Abu Ja‘far (AS) said, “On the night when ‘Alí (AS) was murdered no stone was lifted from the face of the earth unless beneath it was found pure fresh blood, until the first break of dawn. It was the same on the night Yusha‘ ibn Nun (A.S.) was murdered, and it was the same on the night when Eisa ibn Maryam (AS) was raised, and it was the same on the night when Husain (AS) was murdered.” (Biharul Anwar vol.14 p.336)

There are similar reports in Tahdhib al-Ahkam of Abu Ja’far Muhammad bin Hassan al-Tusi and Tafsir Ayyashi.

Conclusion:

5- All these narrations are infact evidence against Ahmadiyya.

a- The narration of al-Hakim and the first one from Biharul Anwar clearly use the words ‘Qabadha’ and ‘Tawaffi’ implying death of Musa (AS) and Ali (RA) respectively but not one of them uses any such word for ‘Eisa (AS). This is a categorical proof that ‘Eisa (AS) did not die and the ‘Rafa’ mentioned for him relates to physical ascension and not just exaltation in ranks after death.

b- The narration from al-Hakim says Musa (AS) died whereas Mirza Ghulam Ahmad claimed to the contrary. See Noor-ul-Haq p. 50 included in Rohani Khazain vol. 8 p.69

I will request the Ahmadi readers around to take all these references to the Murabbis and question them and if they cannot satisfy them, and for a surety they cannot satisfy any reasonable person, then come and be part of the fraternity of pristine Islam.

INDEED ALLAH KNOWS THE BEST!


[1] The site has the statement in Urdu. Here I have given the literal translation of what the site reads.

 

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7 thoughts on “Hadith & Alleged Death of Jesus -12 (Statement of Hassan (ra) at Kufa)

  1. Awesome work akhi Waqar. As usual I guess. Allah has gifted us with your presence on the blog. The references that you have found and reported have thrust Ahmadiyyat even further into the abyss. We all knew that they lie about references and reference work in general.

    In conclusion…..Qadian=Spaxton and Prince=MGAQ with Mahmud=Piggot

  2. Br. Waqar, you and I both know have an understanding of what it means for a narration to be “weak” or “authentic”, etc and how we come to this conclusion. But, knowledge of the classification of Hadith is not common knowledge, not amongst the Ahmadis or even Muslims.

    In fact, from an outsider, it must appear that the hadith are a completely arbitrary mix-mash of hearsay statements, some true, some false, with no way to verify.

    When you cite that the hadith authenticators declared a hadith to be weak or fabricated, you might be factually correct. But to a layman Ahmadi who has zero understanding of Mustalah al-Hadith, it seems like you’re just conveniently declaring a narration weak just to discredit an argument that makes Ahmadiyya seem correct. And its a lot easier to make that argument instead of explaining the long complicated method of hadith classification.

    So, I worry that this approach will not work with common Ahmadis.
    Perhaps we should get together and write an article on this topic?

    • I was listening to an American shaikh today, an exceptionally knowledgeable one whose name escapes me, talking about the saved sect and the victorious party and I understood much of what was said, and realised with a start that none of it would have made any sense 6 or so years ago when my journey to Islam really began.

      I do believe a beginners’ guide to all of this advanced material for Qadianis would be very useful, insha’Allah.

      Nevertheless, both you and brother Waqar are to be commended for your work in da’wah. MashaAllah with youngsters like you, the future of the Ummah gives me hope.

    • As an Ahmadi I was never taught the INS and OUTS of fiqh. Ahmadis dont even discuss these types of matters. Ahmadis follow their own Fiqh, they dont analyse hadith and give ratings…Just the other day I discussed Ahmadiyyat with my one of my cousins, he commented that Imam Abu Haneefa was a NOBODY, as was Maliki, Hanafi, etc etc etc. I told him that these great Imam’s taught Islam during the golden era of Islamic advancement. If they got Islam wrong…we have a much bigger problem.

      Waqar and Farhan have always posted scholarly work. Unfortunatley, the layman-Ahmadi wont be able to look through his Mirza Goggles to see the beauty of this research. Nonetheless, the work shouldnt stop or be delayed because of any reason.

      On a side note… when I was growing up, I was knew more about Esa (as) than I knew about Muhammad (saw).—And there is something really wrong with that. I love Esa (as), but I love Muhammad (saw) more than any other creation.

  3. i was telling brother farhan just last night when he was putting up the article, because i read it before he posted it, so i came and read yours too and i was like wow. if you and brother farhan put both your articles together that will create a very solid and a firm piece of work. like this you guys can point out what fabricated lies were used by ahmadis and also y are they fabricated. if all these questions get answered.. its a victory Insha’Allah.. i dont know if i made sense.. im just typing in a hurry right now.. but great job done by you and farhan..

    May Allah SWT remove the seals from the QALB of the non-believers, (be it an ahmadi or any other sect or any other person out of the fold of islam). May God guide them all to the right path and us too, for we all are sinners and may our imaan become stronger, and may God help us in spreading the truth..

    AMEEN..

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