Poetry in the revelation of Allah?

What does the Qur’an say about revelation and poetry?

In Surah 36, verse 69 Allah clearly states that the Prophet (pbuh) was not taught poetry:

“And We have not taught him poetry, nor does it behove him to be a poet. It is but a Reminder and a Qur’an that expounds and makes things plain.”

Surah 36:69

Below can be found the commentary on this verse taken from the alislam.org website:

“It is inconsistent with the dignity of a Divine prophet that he should be a poet, because poets are generally given to idle dreaming and making castles in the air. Prophets of God have before them very high and noble ideals and programmes. The verse, however, does not mean that all poetry is bad and that all poets are dreamers, but it does mean that a Divine Prophet is far too dignified and spiritually exalted to be a mere poet.”

The Qur’an also states the following:

“That it is, surely, the word brought by a noble messenger. And not the word of a poet; little is it that you believe!”

Surah 69:41

So it is clear that the word of God has nothing to do with poetry. Indeed, even the Ahmedi commentary seems to agree with this notion. The Qur’an is a miracle from Allah, in that no man-made poetry can compete with it.

What did Mirza Ghulam Ahmad claim Allah revealed to him about poetry?

Mirza’s claimed revelation also seems to confirm that prophets do not receive mere poetry:

Tadhkirah (4th Edition) p.729

Sample ‘revelations’ from Allah to Mirza:

Below I present two so-called ‘revelations’ that can be found in Tadhkirah. Apart from the fact that the underlined portions make no sense in the context of the surrounding ‘revelation’, there is an even bigger problem. As we shall soon see:

Tadhkirah (4th Edition) p.625-626

Tadhkirah (4th Edition) p.691

So, what’s the bigger problem? Well, Mirza stole this so-called revelation (the red-underlined portions) from pre-Islamic poetry. Namely, from a poet called Labid ibn Rabi’ah.

Who was Labid ibn Rabi’ah Al-Ameri?

He was a companion of the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh), when he heard the Qur’an recited he immediately embraced Islam and gave up poetry altogether. When he was once asked to recite some poetry the former master-poet replied: “What! After the Qur’an?”

His poetry was so renowned by the Arabs that one of his poems is contained in the Mu’allaqat. His finest poem, when recited at Ukaz (competitions in poetry were held there), caused all the people present to prostrate themselves before him in admiration.

The poetry of Labid:

The above Arabic poem is called the ‘Golden Ode’ and is Labid’s finest work. A translation of it can be found here. It was translated into English in the book Arabian Poetry by W. A. Clouston in 1881.

The verses underlined in red correspond exactly to the underlined revelation taken from Tadhkira. Almost letter for letter.

Strange?

Didn’t Allah tell Mirza that the poets have no access to what he says? Didn’t Allah tell us in the Holy Qur’an that the words of God are not poetry?

Why would Allah send The Messiah to spew pre-Islamic poetry at us? The author of that very same poetry stopped composing when he heard the Qur’an!

The answer is obvious. Allah didn’t reveal Labid’s poetry to Mirza. Mirza stole them from Labid’s poetry and passed them off as revelation. He was not a prophet of God. He was in fact a fraud.

Ahmedis! At the very least take stock of your situation and think! Would Allah really give us man-made poetry as revelation? Would Allah contradict His own words in the Qur’an when he says that revelation is NOT poetry?

I pray that Allah guides you to the right path and fills your hearts with the truth. Ameen.

(With thanks to br. Fuad who provided the source material for this article)

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19 thoughts on “Poetry in the revelation of Allah?

  1. Well done brother. This is clearly one of the most daring plagiarism of MGAQ, as it is the word of man is attributed to God.

  2. You clever son! Very good and writing is wonderful. Do continue- you will help lots of children escape one day. God be with you son.

  3. @khalid

    Nice work akhi!! Nice catch, very original research work…the Mirzas were all con-artists, even Mirzas dad was a thief, I believe MGAQ had a vision where his dad presented Muhammad with a fake dollar bill. I couldnt believe that when I read it…

  4. Brother,

    I am startled by the work; it is simply amazing – Masha’Allah. May Allah give you reward and May Allah give the Ahmadis courage to deny this impostor and accept Islam. Amin!

    I am sure, Lutf will never reply on this post.

  5. Where in the quran it is written that GOD cannot reveal something in the poetry .
    can I get that ayyat ?
    Mr khalid have stated that this ayyat is the source

    “And We have not taught him poetry, nor does it behove him to be a poet. It is but a Reminder and a Qur’an that expounds and makes things plain.”

    can this ayyat be generalized and be put as a rule for all the revelations of the GOD?
    NO , it is not right.

    it is because we know that GOD have revealed 4 books and one among them is the book of david .. The Book of Psalms .
    this book is full of poetry and revealed in the form of poetry . .

    The book of Psalams
    When we have the early books , which have the poetry inside so how can you argue that poetry cannot be revealed by the GOD almighty ?
    ( except , in order to save the day , you deny the existing of such book at all ) …

    2) what kind of poetry GOD does not like ?
    26:225] وَالشُّعَرَآءُ يَتَّبِعُهُمُ الْغَاوٗنَؕ‏
    [26:225] And as for the poets — it is the erring ones who follow them.
    ۔
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    [26:226] اَلَمْ تَرَ اَنَّهُمْ فِىْ كُلِّ وَادٍ يَّهِيْمُوْنَۙ‏
    [26:226] Dost thou not see how they wander distracted in every valley,

    ________________________________________
    [26:227] وَاَنَّهُمْ يَقُوْلُوْنَ مَا لَا يَفْعَلُوْنَۙ‏
    [26:227] And that they say what they practise not? —

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    [26:228] اِلَّا الَّذِيْنَ اٰمَنُوْا وَعَمِلُوا الصّٰلِحٰتِ وَذَكَرُوْا اللّٰهَ كَثِيْرًا وَّانْتَصَرُوْا مِنْۢ بَعْدِ مَا ظُلِمُوْا‌ؕ وَسَيَـعْلَمُ الَّذِيْنَ ظَلَمُوْۤا اَىَّ مُنْقَلَبٍ يَّـنْقَلِبُوْنَ‏
    [26:228] Save those who believe and do good works, and remember Allah much, and retaliate only after they are wronged. And the wrongdoers will soon know to what place of return they shall return.

    Here GOD gave the exception in the last ayyat to those poets who are believers, do good deeds and in their poetry they remember allah much .

    So such a poetry have not been termed as illegal by the GOD almighty , that is why you will see some poetic verse of hazrat Muhammad (saw) and also hazrat Muhammad (saw) allowed his sahabs to recite poetry in front of them and allowed to answer the opponents in the same poetic way

    2)

    Now the important point ,

    question:
    Can GOD use the words of a man in his revelation ?
    Answer:
    Off course, yes he can.

    question:
    Can i give an example of it ?

    Answer:
    yes, see it here.

    Ahmad ibn Muhammad ibn ‘Abd Allah al-Hafiz informed us> ‘Abd Allah ibn Muhammad ibn Hayyan> Muhammad ibn Sulayman> Ahmad ibn ‘Abd Allah ibn Suwayd ibn Manjuf> Abu Dawud> Hammad ibn Salamah> ‘Ali ibn Zayd ibn Jud‘an> Anas ibn Malik who reported that ‘Umar ibn al-Khattab, may Allah be well pleased with him, said: “My words agreed with those of my Lord in four instances. I said: ‘O Messenger of Allah, why do we not pray behind the Maqam [were Abraham stood to pray]’, and Allah, exalted is He, revealed (… Take as your place of worship the place where Abraham stood (to pray)…) [2:125]. And I said: ‘O Messenger of Allah, why do you not put a curtain [to protect your wives from the gaze of men]?’ And so Allah, exalted is He, revealed: (And when ye ask of them (the wives of the Prophet) anything, ask it of them from behind a curtain…) [33:53]. I also said to the wives of the Prophet, Allah bless him and give him peace: ‘You had better take heed or Allah, glorious is He, will give the Prophet instead of you wives who are better than you’. And so Allah, exalted is He, revealed (It may happen that his Lord, if he divorce you, will give him in your stead wives better than you) [66:5]. And when the verse (Verily We created man from a product of wet earth) [23:12] up to His words (… and the produced it as another creation) [23:14] were revealed, I exclaimed: ‘So blessed be Allah, the Best of creators!’ and the end of the verse was revealed as: (So blessed be Allah, the Best of creators!)’ ”.

    source of tafsir

    we can easily see that GOD used the same wording of the hazrat Umar (rz) .

    so lets wonder on the mental approach of Mr Khalid ?

  6. I am not sure what this article is trying to prove.

    a. Is it that a prophet can not use poetry?
    b. That certain revelations of Promised Messiah (as) were infact verses written by some earlier poets?

    As for poetry, we clearly know from the Sunnah that Holy Prophet (saw) used poetry in certain situations. He also liked to listen to the poets of his time and those who were famous before Islam.

    http://khokhar976.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/poetry-seerat.jpg

    So the poetry Quran is referring to, is of idle dreaming and castles in the air. If rhyme and rythm in speech are considered poetry, then Quran is a poetic book. But Promised Messiah (as) himself defines his poetry as

    kuch she’r o shaa’iri se apna nahi ta’alluq
    is dhab say koi sumjhe, bus mud’aa yehi hay

    i.e., I am not a poet, but the purpose is to make people understand my message.

    As for the two examples of prophetic revelations which contained verses from classical arabic poem, i invite you to check if these revelations came true.

    The earth quake of Kangra demolished kangra and the military cantonement (places of temporary and permanent residence).

    Sahibzada Mubarik Ahmad sahib passed away.

    So both prophecies came true.

    If you are worried about the originality of the words, then why stop at these two. There are so may verses of Quran revealed to Promised Messiah (as) as well. Why not include those in your analysis?

    • Didnt MGAQ write an entire book on Poetry? Who would have thought that Messiah to come would have been an avid poet. And his son Mahmud Ahmad wrote poetry as well. I bet they sat around in Qadian having Karaoke contests with one another.

      I used to hate listening to the poems during Jalsas and meetings. I never understood a word of what they said. It was really strange.

        • In the early 1870″s MGAQ was busy writing poetry…

          ” …………Hence the sincerity, the conscience, and the spiritual pathos of Ahmadas found expression in poetry. The divine spirit which surged within his bosom burst out in rhythm—not so much of art as that which art would fain catch, the rhythm of nature, of life itself. He did not write for profit, nor for pleasure
          and amusement. The world did not know until years afterwards that he used to write poems in Urdu and Persian. He shunned publicity. His pathetic passages drew no tears so deep or so sweet as those that fell
          from his own eyes while he wrote them. The Persian poems that he wrote in those days were published
          only after his death. The work is known as Durr-e- Maknun. I will not stop here to discuss the merits of
          his poems, which I shall speak of later in a separate chapter. What I wish to record here is the fact that he
          wrote poetry in those days, and that his Takhallus was Farrukh.”

          See Dard Page 60 and 61

          http://www.alislam.org/library/books/Li … 0411MN.pdf

          • Lutf is wrong again…and didnt you say once that the Quran DOESNT CONTAIN any grammatical mistakes? What do you think your prophet said about that?

            FYI: I can tell you…

  7. Lutf,

    That was amazing you replied on the post, though you ignored the questions totally. Please answer this first:

    “Would Allah really give us man-made poetry as revelation?”

    Really?

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