Ahmadiyya Running Scared

The Ahmadiyya is running scared. Who are we at thecult.info? Just a group of Muslims, spread around the world, with differing views and a unity on one issue – a desire to evangelise the deen we love, to invite Ahmadis to Islam and to defend Islam from blatant attempts at corruption. And which attempted corruption is more blatant than Ahmadiyya?

Somebody just wrote to me telling me that the Ahmadiyya has responded to our article on Chanda last Sunday. That’s really funny. Their leadership spreads gossip about its former members to make their gullible followers feel safer in their belief, so why should they feel the need to respond to such people? Obviously, there has been no response here, but they take the threat posed by our revelation their underhand activities very seriously indeed. Whenever they “respond”, it makes me happy, because I realise we’ve hit a nerve. Often, their defences amount to nothing more than a pathetic half-demolition of a silly strawman argument. We don’t even need to look at their “defence”, because all we did was address the facts, and we are still in contact with many Ahmadis who know the score.

I wonder how the Ahmadiyya feels about many of its members talking to us ¬†about the perverse nature of the cult they purportedly belong to? Many of them refuse to pay chanda and have parents “covering” for them.

Let’s re-cap:

The Ahmadiyya makes it obligatory for its sick, poor and elderly members to pay 10% of their state benefits to them. How this money is used is not clear and never has been. This obscene tax on the most vulnerable members of its community is obligatory. That is un-Islamic.

Their website at the time of writing the chanda post has a chanda calculator, but not a zakah calculator.

The only way out is to write a begging letter to the Ahmadiyya leader, Mirza Masroor. This is humiliating.

Another interesting point to note is how heavily the Ahmadiyya pushes its officious office bearers to pursue Chanda. Here are some extracts from a public Ahmadiyya document called “Finance Workshop” on how to approach members for¬†Obligatory Chandas!

Obligatory Chandas

This makes for chilling reading. Anyone who has had somebody try to “hard sell” to them before will get a sense of deja vu. Particularly chilling is the section that advises financial secretaries to “Formulate plan of action to recover arrears”. Arrears? In an un-Islamic tax? How about recovery of arrears from the unemployed? These people should recall that I was once one of them before I woke up, so their excuses and distractions will be of no benefit to them. Many thinking Ahmadis will know that I speak the truth. One Ahmadi wrote to me about my original post and advised me to remove one sentence. I did. My adherence to the truth is why Ahmadis read what I write, and what the other wonderful Muslim brothers on this site write.

As for the sisters, one of the sisters who is Muslim, but moves within Ahmadiyya circles out of a need for her safety and for her family’s protection, shared with us this letter from Mirza Masroor to Rafiq Hayat:

 

Respected Amir Sahib,

Salaam. 


In the rules and regulations about obligatory chandas, there is a concession of 6 months for those in arrears. The rules have been presented in a generalised form. In fact this concession is mainly for the farmers and businessmen who prepare their financial accounts every 6 months.

The Promised Messiah (as) actually demanded an inspired standard by stating ‘My follower should impose upon himself some monthly monetary contributions; it may be the smallest unit of a penny or even a half penny. But if someone neither contributes anything financially nor physically serves the community is a hypocrite and cannot remain in the community after that. We will wait a period of 3 months for every new convert to respond to this call. Is he ready to fix up some monetary monthly payments for the Jama’at. If a reply is not received from the new convert within a 3 month period then his name will be removed from the bai’at register and this will be notified to the Jama’at. If anyone did not fulfil his promise of payment due to carelessness, his name will also be removed. After that any arrogant or careless person who is not a helper will not remain in the community’.

Therefore, in future all monthly earning members who are holding office in the Jama’at and are in arrears of chandas for more than 2 months, should be removed from their posts and new elections be held to replace them. The Promised Messiah (as) is talking about their removal from the Jama’at then why should we talk about giving them offices.

May Allah enable us to be pious with complete faithfulness and total sincerity to remain attached with Khilafat. 

Wassalam,

Khalifatual Masih V

8th May 2007.

 

So we hereby urge Mirza Masroor to remove all members from the bai`at register who do not pay chanda. I guarantee that your membership will not exceed one million if you do that. If you do not, you are not following the teachings of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad and you too will publicly remain a hypocrite. That is my challenge to you. Perhaps by way of example Mr. Masroor, you could share with us on this blog how much you contribute to the Ahmadiyya coffers? Perhaps you’d also like to declare to the Inland Revenue and the Charities Commission how much cash you receive in nazrana payments from members who get personal meetings with you.

Perhaps while you’re at it, you could set the record straight with your membership about the Mirza Sharif Ahmad Foundation. Here is an organisation that claims to be set up to “advance Islam worldwide” and does this through the purchase of properties, the funding of which came from the benefits payments of its poor, sick and elderly members, who are not exempt from the 10% tax that they have to pay on their state benefits. So, poor, sick and old people buy property for the Mirza family, from the benefits they received courtesy of the British taxpayer. Aren’t you angry yet?

The Ahmadiyya has no claim on the benefits that the British taxpayer has paid for. The Ahmadiyya has no claim to the money of its poor, sick and elderly members and it should immediately make an official exception on the un-Islamic “chanda” to all people on benefits.

 

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16 thoughts on “Ahmadiyya Running Scared

  1. Allah hu Akbar.

    Thing is they dont even let go poor pensioners even they have to pay Chanda that too on NET EARNINGS not on SAVINGS.

    and to get a GRAVE in that Special Grave Yard (Business Class) you have to pay higher rate of Chanda and give u property as well

    The Clear Symptoms of The CULT (Mirza & Sons)

  2. Removing from Jammat (Ahmadiyyat) is as if its some sort of Club Membership rather than Religion

  3. This will make for a good laugh. Read on page 8
    http://www.mkausa.org/Download-document/1446-MKA-Survey-2010-Results

    Thats what you call forcing a response. I do find many of the results interesting.

    On page 13 we read the options as:
    Strongly Agree, Agree, Neutral, and Disagree. This creates a 1/4 chance of being a negative response vs 2/4 (or 1/2) being a positive or non-negative response.
    The HONEST way to ask a question is this:
    Strongly agree, agree, neutral, disagree, and strongly disagree. Ask your local statistician. There is equal 1/5th for EACH response.

    Look at the question before that
    The options should read
    Well connected, connected, neutral, not connected, severly disconnected
    but it reads: well connected, connected, somewhat connected and not connected. They will boast about this by saying “97% of our community feels connected to the community, LOOK AT OUR UMMAH!!!! We are amazing~~~” when in fact they have forged the nmbers. This is the height of trickery and any statistician or sociologist would tell you this is the WRONG way to condict a survy

  4. Look at the 2nnd to last question about what turns ahmadis off from religion

    6% say questions about the core of belief. The majority is about the CONDUCT OF PEOPLE. This is why its so hard to make ahmadi’s see the truth because they are so bent on the actions of people rather than the honesty of their beliefs.

  5. But they, that Day, are in surrender.
    And they will approach one another blaming each other.
    They will say, “Indeed, you used to come at us from the right.”
    The oppressors will say, “Rather, you [yourselves] were not believers,
    And we had over you no authority, but you were a transgressing people.
    So the word of our Lord has come into effect upon us; indeed, we will taste [punishment].
    And we led you to deviation; indeed, we were deviators.”
    So indeed they, that Day, will be sharing in the punishment.
    37:26-33

    They are Zalims! They rob the poor & needy so they can purchase properties, buisnesses & cars for their luxury!

    In The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, Gibbon refers to Hazrat Umar Ibn Al-Khattab RA in the following terms: “Yet the abstinence and humility of Umar were not inferior to the virtues of Abu Bakr: his food consisted of barley bread or dates; his drink was water; he preached in a gown that was torn or tattered in twelve places; and a Persian satrap, who paid his homage as to the conqueror, found him asleep among the beggars on the steps of the mosque of Muslims.”

    The sign of a true Muslim leader, more concerned for the welfare of the people than himself!

    • And the present Mirza Jee lives in a +£1M mansion purchased from the chanda I suppose!!! Its all about dividends from the business set up by that Kazzab – MGAQ.

  6. I was an ahmadi at the time that this letter was given out and spoken about. I was a regular chanda paying member, I also payed MKA dues and Waqf-e-jadid and Tehrik e Jadid.

    I was turned off by the orders of Masroor. I just couldnt understand it. I didnt understand as to why they were making it an issue.

    I remember clearly the president of my local jamaat making an announcement to the effect that..”if your not paying chanda at the exact rate, you will be in trouble”.

    I am soooooo glad I got the hell out of there!

  7. ohhh come on guys, how do you expect him to drive his BMW? Promised Messiah told him in a dream metaphorically that the BMW is a metaphorical horse that metaphorically carries him up to heaven, so he can have a metaphoric orgasm with god.

  8. Those belong to this cult blog are nuts, they keep ignoring what I have been telling them that even if it is proven that Ahmadiyya
    is wrong, they cannot be right either.

    • First accept that ahmadiyyat is wrong
      then we can talk with Islam is wrong or not.

      • How? with half faith is christian half faith is Islam, is that what you call Islam? is not that the biggest Bid’ah on earth?

  9. Nice!!
    I have found alot more dirt on them whilst browsing through various Ahmadiyya Bulletins, particulary on the matter of tehrik e jadid! Will get it posted shortly…

  10. The order donation options on the Chanda receipts in itself clearly indicates what the Jamaat favours, and what it expects of its followers. The option for Zakat and Sadqah is at the very bottom. I will check them out when I get home and post it.

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