Comments on: Open Letter – Part 2 – Seismology and Epidemiology

By: khalid

khalid — Sun, 14 Mar 2010 18:46:42 +0000

Ok i got it , i took it from a site from where i copy hadith and qurinic ayyat but did not gave the source, shall keep in mind

By: Khalid nawaz

Khalid nawaz — Sat, 13 Mar 2010 04:51:48 +0000

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@admin
as u have the right to delete whatever u wish , but i want to say two things

1) i did not committed plagiarism at all
2) and i did not allege Islam as well

i gave the example to prove the point , anyway if u did not like it and deleted it then i cannot do nothing but please do not allege me of attacking islam , using some past event to show the truthfulness of present event should not be considered as the attack on islam

By: Rationalist

Rationalist — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:18:37 +0000

@ lutf

So, is Nostradumus a prophet? Some of his prophecies came true!

You standards of life are just unbelievable, if mirza said: i predict rain, would you apply this to every single tornado or hurricane?

The problem is that you believe that MGA was a truthful person, this is the premise that surrounds your life. Because of this premise, you believe everything this clown says, irregardless of how stupid it sounds.

By: khalid Nawaz

khalid Nawaz — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 19:13:58 +0000

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By: khalid Nawaz

khalid Nawaz — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 19:08:27 +0000

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By: Shahid

Shahid — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:52:32 +0000

You apply the principle that whatever Mirza gave you, no matter how low his character, how shoddy his example, how off-base his prophecies, how plagiarised his writings, how foul his mouth, that he is true. Even if that makes Islam false, which is of course your stated position.

That is why a man who plagiarised a poem by Labeed, hoping to fool his gullible followers, can be labelled a prophet by seemingly intelligent men like yourself.

By: Lutf

Lutf — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:09:16 +0000

So, you accept that the propecy which was linked with the quake was made before the quake.. thanks

Now lets come to the contents of the prophecies..

1. There will be much death as if judgment day has arrived. “Mauta mauti lag rahi hay”..

2. Buildings will be destroyed. both temporary and permanent.

Both fit perfectly on the earthquake which happened in Kangra.. The main feature of this catastophe was the reported state of buildings which were completely destroyed, including the nearby cantonement.

Now, for me the truth of the prophecy is in its outcome. I apply the same principle to the hadith of Dar Qutni and various other prophecies. If the come true in all their details, why argue any further.

By: Akber

Akber — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 13:48:49 +0000

My opening sentence – read it carefully:

“Mirza Ghulam Ahmad had never mentioned anything about earthquakes until the first week of April 1905. ” – even after the earthquake of Assam.

and then after 5 April, his prophecies are full of the word ‘earthquake’ –

Those are the facts. What does Labeed’s poem about a deserted camping ground that inhabitants have left behind have to do with earthquakes? Did anyone, including Mirza, indicate that it was a prophecy of an imminent earthquake?

By: Lutf

Lutf — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 13:35:42 +0000

Akbar sahib, You know very well that prophecies have enough room for rejectors to doubt and mock at them. I have no doubt that the propehcy was fulfilled. You on the other hand lied when you stated that no prophecy was made until after the quake.

By: Khalid nawaz

Khalid nawaz — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:13:12 +0000

@Akber

what u said is nothing new , before ur , ur brother in faith did the same thing

In quran there comes about such persons

4 But the misbelievers say: “Naught is this but a lie which he has forged, and others have helped him at it.” In truth it is they who have put forward an iniquity and a falsehood.
5 And they say: “Tales of the ancients, which he has caused to be written: and they are dictated before him morning and evening

Al furqan.

poor Mr akbar