Comments on: Shahid Kamal Speaks at Hendon Mosque

By: T.M.

T.M. — Tue, 25 May 2010 04:35:49 +0000

Syed Sulaiman,

One has to be very careful about return of Hazrath ISA a.s otherwise there is every potential to be mislead.

First point is Allah s.w.t sends messengers to convey the message and that’s all. Giving guidance is in the hands of Allah s.w.t. alone. Every prophet preached to a different nation except Muhammad pbuh, who came for all mankind.

Second, it is true that there are authentic hadith about return of Isa a.s. Let us be very clear on this issue.

Third, who has distorted the true teachings of Hz. ISA a.s? Obviously, his return is to correct that and to reestablish the true teachings.

I am amazed at why you are comparing the status of Prophet Muhammad and Isa a.s peace be upon them, based on the return of Hz Isa a.s. There is no need to do that. is this what your Murabbis are teaching you?

To conclude you should be asking your Murabbis that if they donot believe in return of Haz. Isa a.s. like the Muslims and Christians do, then why did they believe in MGA when he proclaimed that he is the second coming of Jesus a.s?

This is not to condemn you or your belief but to give you some thought to study more on this subject through authentic teaching and not just by listening to the ignorant Murabbis of the jamaat.

By: Norman

Norman — Mon, 24 May 2010 09:37:17 +0000

Allahu Akbar

By: Syed Sulaiman bin Adnan

Syed Sulaiman bin Adnan — Wed, 19 May 2010 00:40:38 +0000

The Lahori seemed to have fall in the same trap as those early mulims of the Khulafa Rashida era who rebel against the institution of khilafat for the reasons known to them, as for those who realised it would be a blunder mistake to rebel against the system of institution of khilafat remained intact and Insha’Allah they will all be reunited again in time to come.
Alhamdulillah, that you realised the different between Ahmadi muslim and non-Ahmadi muslim, Ahmadi muslims are united under one leadership wherever they live in different parts of the world for the reasons they all believe in one Allah, one messenger and one holy Quran, non-Ahmadi muslim are disunited under different leadership in different parts of the world even though they claimed that they believe in one Allah, one messenger and one holy Quran, so what is the point to have believe if it does not poduce effect as expected? our plain logic reject such notion,(eg. we believe that we could expect to taste sweetness from sugar, yet, when it does not produce the effect as expected what’s used to our believe?)
The question of NEW prophet is irrelevent because it dos not exist at all, how could the Imam Mahdi/Imam of The Age, regardless whether he is Mirza Ghulam Ahmad or not is said to be NEW prophet when he is required to obey the shariaat of Rasul Karim Muhammad Rasulullah(SAW)? as I said in my previous post his prophethood is SUBJECTED TO THE PROPHETHOOD OF THE HOLY PROPHET MUHAMMAD(saw) in simple words his prophethood is in controlled or dominated
by the prophethood of Muhammad Rasulullah(SAW) that is to say his prophethood does not go to the extends to nullify or
abrogate the highest status of The Holy Prophet(SAW) as The Khattamul Anbiyya. So how he be NEW prophet?
Allowed me to reemphasised my point here, according to holy Quran prophethood is a kind of spiritual blessing, therefore, it does not make sense to say that the purpose of the advent of The Holy Prophet(SAW) is to closed spiritual blessing doors, as I said it is a kind of an insult to His(SAW) dignity to believe so,
because no prophets of Allah ever does that, not even those perophets belong to the Israilite who were much lower status compare to our beloved Rasul Karim Muhammad Rasulullah(SAW).

By: True Muslims

True Muslims — Tue, 18 May 2010 19:58:50 +0000

Syed Sulaiman bin Adnan,

If so which one is true, Lahori’s or the Ahmadi’s please clarify?

Also muslims are in different parts of the World and are not always under the same leaders due to geo-political reasons but they all believe in one Allah, one Messenger and one holy Quran. They unequivocally reject MGA or any other new claimant of Prophethood after Muhammad (pbuh).

By: Syed Sulaiman bin Adnan

Syed Sulaiman bin Adnan — Tue, 18 May 2010 04:41:31 +0000

Is not the main objective of the mission of The Holy Prophet(SAW) is to establish unity? of God(Tauhid Illahi) and untiy of ummah?(Ukhwah Islamiah) if so, what is the correct system according to you beside the system that was enected and practised by The Holy Prophet(SAW) himself and His(SAW) successors, one community one leadership, do you seriously believe that the main objective of the mission of The Holy Prophet(SAW) could be accomplished by those muslim who have too many leaders to follow? where does it occurred in the teaching of The Holy Prophet(SAW) that muslim are required to prctice and follow too many leaders? can u pls point out just one example as I have shown an example that the practice of cogrational prayer is the teaching of The Holy Prophet(SAW) that unity can only be achieved by following one leader.
Don’t tell me about unity in diversity, caused to me it is just a gimmick, as I poined out in my previous post it is only coalition parties with different components and leaders, there is no unity at all.

By: Ture Muslim

Ture Muslim — Sat, 15 May 2010 18:31:00 +0000

Sulaiman,
Ahmadiyyat is not Khilafat. It is a cult. How come only the unfit family members of MGA become Kahilfa’s. That shows they are not elected but appointed.

By: True Muslim

True Muslim — Sat, 15 May 2010 04:20:16 +0000

S Sulaiman bin Adnan wrote:
“If I were to quit Ahmadiyyat I would become a muslim without leader or a muslim with too many leaders to follow, neither one of fit to be classified as AHL SUNNAH WAL JAMAAH.”

Reply:
Ahmadiyyat has already split into two groups already, not to mention the internal bikerings and fragments.
(1) Lahoris
(2) Ahmadi’s
Further, there are some others like Deendar Anjuman group who also were beilieving in MGA and were caught red handed planting bombs in religious places to cause chaos and confusion between various religions such as hinduism, Islam, christianity etc.

Islam is a widespread relgion and just like people of any other major World religion out there and it is not necessary and not practical for all to come under one Khalifa or a ruler. Diversity is one of the beauties of GODS creation. We call it unity in diversity. As long as they remain within and follow principles of ISLAM there is salvation for us. But if we go astray and follow heretic cults like Ahmaiyyat founded by the self proclaimed prophet MGA, then we will most likely be loosers.

Allah s.w.t did not tell us that unless you all come under one khilafat I will not forgive you or put you in hell. Instead in Holy Quran Allah informs us beautifully as “O mankind we have created you from a single pair of male and female and made you into many nations and tribes so that you may know one another and not despise one another, and the best among you is the one who is the most pious”

By: Syed Sulaiman bin Adnan

Syed Sulaiman bin Adnan — Fri, 14 May 2010 23:34:54 +0000

Joke or no joke, the system itself is proven to be the necessity for the ummah to be united into one body(JEMAAH) as it was practised by The Holy Prophet(SAW)himself and His(SAW) successors(Khulafa Rashidah) are you going to deny that?
Why don’t you perform your congrational prayer(Jemaah)with 3 or 4 Imam(leaders) to lead the prayer?
is not this to indicate that one jemaah(body/organisation) could only be presided by one leader? this is the main criteria of the genuine AHLE SUNNAH WAL JAMAAH.

By: zia

zia — Fri, 14 May 2010 18:16:04 +0000

AHMADIYYA them self has many sects so this joke of one khalifah for all is nothing but a joke in ahmadiyya

By: Syed Sulaiman bin Adnan

Syed Sulaiman bin Adnan — Fri, 14 May 2010 11:39:22 +0000

Yes am dead serious about the concept of one community one leadership, I believe the main objective of the mission Holy Prophet Muhammad(SAW) is to unite all muslim ummah, to reflect the unity of God (TAUHID ILLAHI) it is no point to belive that God is one yet the ummah is not one, they are divided into many factions and sectarian due too many leaders.
During the time of Holy Prophet Muhammad*SAW) muslim ummah followed only one leader that was The Holy Prophet(SAW) himself, after His demised the system of Khilafat was enected to ensure that the ummah remain united into one body, no doubt there were some traitors who did sabotage the system.
The Holy Prophet Muhammad never teach us to follow too many leaders.
The present so called clever mullah,clergy,scholars etc, have no potential to accomplish this main mission of The Holy Prophet Muhammad(SAW).
They tried to confuse the ummah by forming coalition parties among themselve, as if they are united, infact they are divided into different components with different leaders, that is the reason every time they are at logger head they need to reconcile to confuse the ummah as if they are united, such practice does not conform to the practice of The Holy Prophet Muhammad(SAW) and it against to the basic teaching of Islam.