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	<title>Comments on: Audio of Shahid Kamal at Tooting Islamic Centre</title>
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	<description>Inviting from Ahmadiyya to Islam</description>
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		<title>By: Shahid</title>
		<link>http://thecult.info/blog/2010/01/12/shahid-kamal-at-tooting-islamic-centre/comment-page-1/#comment-15087</link>
		<dc:creator>Shahid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 21:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Ahmadis should read Mirza&#039;s books - if they can read Urdu, Arabic and Persian and plough through all that plagiarised and hateful verbiage. I recommend they read translations of Seerat ul-Mahdi too. Have a look at how Mirza plagiarised his Arabic work, especially the tiny booklet Seerat al-Abdaal, and show he stole his central thesis from Sir Sayyid Ahmad Khan.

Read how he praised Queen Victoria&#039;s empire in the most fawning and obsequious language instead of inviting her to Islam with dignity. Try and square his claim of prophet-hood with his life&#039;s major task of defending the British Empire against the Muslims he called dirty and Satanic.

Then compare and contrast the life, character and output of this charlatan Mirza Ghulam to the greatest man who ever walked the earth, Rasulullah (saw) - and try not to be sick.

As you well know by your last-ditch efforts to stop your cohorts from rejoining the ranks of the Muslims and abandoning your cult, when Ahmadis read Mirza&#039;s work and reflect with sincerity, praying for guidance, they tend to leave the falsehood of Mirza and revert to Islam. Sadly for you, none of your attempts to throw sand in the eyes or avoid all of the real issues seems to be helping your cause. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Ahmadis should read Mirza&#8217;s books &#8211; if they can read Urdu, Arabic and Persian and plough through all that plagiarised and hateful verbiage. I recommend they read translations of Seerat ul-Mahdi too. Have a look at how Mirza plagiarised his Arabic work, especially the tiny booklet Seerat al-Abdaal, and show he stole his central thesis from Sir Sayyid Ahmad Khan.</p>
<p>Read how he praised Queen Victoria&#8217;s empire in the most fawning and obsequious language instead of inviting her to Islam with dignity. Try and square his claim of prophet-hood with his life&#8217;s major task of defending the British Empire against the Muslims he called dirty and Satanic.</p>
<p>Then compare and contrast the life, character and output of this charlatan Mirza Ghulam to the greatest man who ever walked the earth, Rasulullah (saw) &#8211; and try not to be sick.</p>
<p>As you well know by your last-ditch efforts to stop your cohorts from rejoining the ranks of the Muslims and abandoning your cult, when Ahmadis read Mirza&#8217;s work and reflect with sincerity, praying for guidance, they tend to leave the falsehood of Mirza and revert to Islam. Sadly for you, none of your attempts to throw sand in the eyes or avoid all of the real issues seems to be helping your cause.</p>
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		<title>By: Lutf</title>
		<link>http://thecult.info/blog/2010/01/12/shahid-kamal-at-tooting-islamic-centre/comment-page-1/#comment-15086</link>
		<dc:creator>Lutf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 20:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes Indeed. Those Ahmadis who do not read the books of Promised Messiah (as) are ignoring their duty as ahmadis. Sometimes such allegations cause them to start reading the books and this helps them find more conviction of faith as a result.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Indeed. Those Ahmadis who do not read the books of Promised Messiah (as) are ignoring their duty as ahmadis. Sometimes such allegations cause them to start reading the books and this helps them find more conviction of faith as a result.</p>
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		<title>By: ameer baig</title>
		<link>http://thecult.info/blog/2010/01/12/shahid-kamal-at-tooting-islamic-centre/comment-page-1/#comment-15081</link>
		<dc:creator>ameer baig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 18:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Straight Talker.

do u belong to the lahore ahmadiya movement?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Straight Talker.</p>
<p>do u belong to the lahore ahmadiya movement?</p>
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		<title>By: ameer baig</title>
		<link>http://thecult.info/blog/2010/01/12/shahid-kamal-at-tooting-islamic-centre/comment-page-1/#comment-14922</link>
		<dc:creator>ameer baig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 07:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Straight Talker, do u belong to the lahore ahmadiyya movement?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Straight Talker, do u belong to the lahore ahmadiyya movement?</p>
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		<title>By: Shahid</title>
		<link>http://thecult.info/blog/2010/01/12/shahid-kamal-at-tooting-islamic-centre/comment-page-1/#comment-14842</link>
		<dc:creator>Shahid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 23:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go to thecult.info - there is a contact link for email at the bottom of the page.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go to thecult.info &#8211; there is a contact link for email at the bottom of the page.</p>
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		<title>By: Mattew</title>
		<link>http://thecult.info/blog/2010/01/12/shahid-kamal-at-tooting-islamic-centre/comment-page-1/#comment-14841</link>
		<dc:creator>Mattew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 22:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Mr Shahid,
Please send me your E-Mail address, I would like to send you some interesting and hitorical information. Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mr Shahid,<br />
Please send me your E-Mail address, I would like to send you some interesting and hitorical information. Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Shahid</title>
		<link>http://thecult.info/blog/2010/01/12/shahid-kamal-at-tooting-islamic-centre/comment-page-1/#comment-14814</link>
		<dc:creator>Shahid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 22:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jazakallah khayr. Feedback like this is encouraging and heartening. May Allah (SWT) accept my humble efforts  and shower you with mercy insha&#039;Allah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jazakallah khayr. Feedback like this is encouraging and heartening. May Allah (SWT) accept my humble efforts  and shower you with mercy insha&#8217;Allah.</p>
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		<title>By: findings</title>
		<link>http://thecult.info/blog/2010/01/12/shahid-kamal-at-tooting-islamic-centre/comment-page-1/#comment-14813</link>
		<dc:creator>findings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 22:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brother Shahid:

A friend of mine attended this talk and said you truely were &#039;kamal ki baat&#039; lol. Brilliant work, inspirational as always and I have the greatest respect for you.

Thank You,

Sis Findings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brother Shahid:</p>
<p>A friend of mine attended this talk and said you truely were &#8216;kamal ki baat&#8217; lol. Brilliant work, inspirational as always and I have the greatest respect for you.</p>
<p>Thank You,</p>
<p>Sis Findings.</p>
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		<title>By: Farhan</title>
		<link>http://thecult.info/blog/2010/01/12/shahid-kamal-at-tooting-islamic-centre/comment-page-1/#comment-14580</link>
		<dc:creator>Farhan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 09:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um...what? Lets suppose Imam al-Shafi&#039;i, based on the Qur&#039;an and Sunnah, said XYZ. Then, a person who gives respect and credibility to al-Shafi&#039;i said &quot;I follow the Shafi&#039;i opinion on XYZ&quot;.

That person is not following al-Shafi&#039;i over the Qur&#039;an. He&#039;s following the Qur&#039;an through the scholarly opinion of Imam al-Shafi&#039;i.

Do you honestly expect Shaykh Hamza to be asked a simple question, and him to go into an elaborate set of proofs just because 10 years later, someone will be discussing this issue on a forum?

You don&#039;t understand. The Lahori sect is a non-issue. Very few people know about it or even care about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um&#8230;what? Lets suppose Imam al-Shafi&#8217;i, based on the Qur&#8217;an and Sunnah, said XYZ. Then, a person who gives respect and credibility to al-Shafi&#8217;i said &#8220;I follow the Shafi&#8217;i opinion on XYZ&#8221;.</p>
<p>That person is not following al-Shafi&#8217;i over the Qur&#8217;an. He&#8217;s following the Qur&#8217;an through the scholarly opinion of Imam al-Shafi&#8217;i.</p>
<p>Do you honestly expect Shaykh Hamza to be asked a simple question, and him to go into an elaborate set of proofs just because 10 years later, someone will be discussing this issue on a forum?</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t understand. The Lahori sect is a non-issue. Very few people know about it or even care about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Farhan</title>
		<link>http://thecult.info/blog/2010/01/12/shahid-kamal-at-tooting-islamic-centre/comment-page-1/#comment-14579</link>
		<dc:creator>Farhan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 09:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re saying he&#039;s a liar and a businessman. All these baseless accusations to support Mirza Ghulam? Again, you cannot just say things like &quot;He supports our view, but just does not say it in public. I could say &quot;Lahoris actually believe Mirza Ghulam was a prophet, but just do not say it in public.&quot; Its a baseless claim, just as you make.

Perhaps you should listen to his lecture on Modernity, where someone explicitly asks him about &#039;Esa bin Maryam (AS).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re saying he&#8217;s a liar and a businessman. All these baseless accusations to support Mirza Ghulam? Again, you cannot just say things like &#8220;He supports our view, but just does not say it in public. I could say &#8220;Lahoris actually believe Mirza Ghulam was a prophet, but just do not say it in public.&#8221; Its a baseless claim, just as you make.</p>
<p>Perhaps you should listen to his lecture on Modernity, where someone explicitly asks him about &#8216;Esa bin Maryam (AS).</p>
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