Comments on: WHY DID I LEAVE AHMADIYYAT by The Rationalist

By: speaktruth

speaktruth — Tue, 16 Feb 2010 21:56:07 +0000

@Rationalist
you raised point about ahmadiyya, are the same points non believers raised about Holy Prophet (saw),
plz make some difference in your points and the points of non believers,
dont follow the footsteps of non believers

@peacehaterd
you ask yourself what you are saying, is it Islamic or Satanic?
English is not compulsory in Islam

By: peacelover

peacelover — Tue, 16 Feb 2010 21:14:45 +0000

@speaktruth (you never)

before you get onto this blog, go learn some basic english: word of god not can exchange – revelation of yalash to his slave mirza kazzab qadiani who called muslims bastard (haram zada) while he himself was. laanat x 1001 upon that walad-ul haram.

By: Rationalist

Rationalist — Tue, 16 Feb 2010 19:26:20 +0000

Ahmadiyyat is a make-shift version of Islam.

Nasir Ahmad’s fees to attend Oxford university were paid from very poor ahmadis.

Mahmud Ahmad got fat and rich as soon as he became khalifa. He married a second time just 2 months after his election.

The misappropriaiton of funds is a long laundry list of sexual interests of one family.

WE CAN WHAT WE WILL DO!!!!

By: speaktruth

speaktruth — Tue, 16 Feb 2010 19:10:51 +0000

this is a mirare, they are your brothern there level of spirituality is same, if someone can leave the islam then why not ahmadiyyat?

By: peacelover

peacelover — Tue, 16 Feb 2010 12:20:41 +0000

this stands to show how wretched an enemy of islam mirzais are.

By: speaktruth

speaktruth — Mon, 15 Feb 2010 23:54:25 +0000

some of your lost brothers are here
http://www.apostatesofislam.com/

By: the truth

the truth — Fri, 15 Jan 2010 17:03:14 +0000

what about these hadith a bout calif
Book 041, Number 6961:
Abu Nadra reported:” We were in the company of Jabir b. ‘Abdulldh that he said it may happen that the people of Iraq may not send their qafiz and dirhams (their measures of food stuff and their money). We said: Who would be respolisible for it? He said: The non_Arabs would prevt them. He again said: There is the possibility that the people of Syria may not send their dinar and mudd. We said: Who would be responsible for it? He said This prevention would be made by the Romans. He (Jabir b. Abdullab) kept quiet for a while and then reported Allah’, s Messengdt (may peas be upon him) having said There would be a caliph in the last (period) of my Ummah who would freely give handfuls of wealth to thd people wiothout counting it. I said to Abu Nadra and Abu al-’Ala: DO you mean ‘Umarb. ‘Abd al-Aziz? They said: No (he would be Imam Mahdi.).
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Book 041, Number 6962:
This hadith hab been narrated by Sa’id with the same chain of transmitters.
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Book 041, Number 6963:
Abu Sa’id reported that Allah’s Messenger (may peace he upon him) I said: There would be amongest your caliphs a caliph who would give handfuls of wealth to the, but wbuld not count it. In. the narration transmitted on the authority of Ibn Hujr, there is a slight variation of wording.
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Book 041, Number 6964:
Abu Sa’id and Jabir b. Abdullah reported that Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: There would be in the last phase of the time a caliph who would distribute wealth but would not count.

By: the truth

the truth — Fri, 15 Jan 2010 16:56:56 +0000

slam bro
1. i will check this tafseer by my self from different source,
2. Plz refer me the book of promise messiah (as) you have read about this, as an ahmadi I believe 4 khulfa-e-rashideen?
3. If I take meaning what you told me then its mean this verse is no more in use, is it canceled or can we remove it from Holy Qur’an,
According to Ahmadiyya believe, each and every vers is guidance for a Muslim Forever, each and every verse have still meaning, there is not any verse that is only for sahaba but not for other Muslims, is there any hadith that some verses are only for sahaba but not for other muslims,

By: Rationalist

Rationalist — Thu, 14 Jan 2010 19:06:35 +0000

FACTOIDS, 3 of the 4 rightly guided khalifas after the HP(saw) were brutally assasinated, is this the promise that Allah gave us?

Then in your opinion (qadiani thought) this promise was withheld for like 1300 years.

You should read Shahadutul Quran by MGA, the LAM have translated into english, MGA says that this verse applies to Hazrat Abu Bakr only.

I can find the exact reference if you so desire. Mirza Mahmud Ahmad never commented as to why MGA directed this Quranic verse to Hazrat Abu Bakr only….

Obviously this verse means something else…

By: Rationalist

Rationalist — Thu, 14 Jan 2010 18:43:05 +0000

This is what the father of tafseer had to say on the matter (ibn Abbas):

http://www.altafsir.com/Tafasir.asp?tMadhNo=0&tTafsirNo=73&tSoraNo=24&tAyahNo=55&tDisplay=yes&UserProfile=0&LanguageId=2

(Allah hath promised such of you) O Companions of Muhammad (pbuh) (as believe and do good works) between themselves and their Lord (that He will surely make them to succeed (the present rulers) in the earth (to succeed others)) some of them in succession to others (even as He caused those who were before them) among the Children of Israel: Joshua ben Nun, Caleb ben Jephunneh; it is also said that this means: We shall make them dwell in the land of Mecca as We made those before them, among the Children of Israel, dwell in their land after the destruction of their enemy; (and that He will surely establish for them) He will make triumph (their religion which He hath approved for them) and has chosen for them, (and will give them in exchange) of Mecca (safety) following the destruction of their enemy (after their fear) of the enemy. (They serve Me) in order that they worship Me in Mecca. (They ascribe no thing) no idol (as partner unto Me. Those who disbelieve henceforth) after victory and change of fortune, (they are the miscreants) the disobedient.