Comments on: Ahmadiyya Cult Discussed on Iqra TV

By: Shahid

Shahid — Wed, 20 Jan 2010 20:35:16 +0000

Please learn to write before you comment. Nobody made any money on this. Iqra is a charity, I didn’t even ask for my tube fare, so stop with the accusations without proof, it’s a grave sin.

By: Izkov

Izkov — Wed, 20 Jan 2010 20:20:49 +0000

Big deal the program is i presume supponsoered by someone or some company. So who is making religion into money making?

By: ahmad

ahmad — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:13:15 +0000

salam,
want to know is there any verse in quran about punishing(azab after death) those people who believe in false prophet, or only those people be punished who do´t believe on true prophet.

By: Shahid

Shahid — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:00:16 +0000

Dear brother Kashif,

I don’t remember seeing you, but I used to live in Fulham when I reverted to Islam.

Jazakallah khayr for your message of support. I’m not surprised by the alislam forums action at all. No cult survives intellectually when it is exposed to the truth.

By: Kashif Nadeem

Kashif Nadeem — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:33:23 +0000

Dear Shahid Kamal
I saw your program on the Iqra TV. Like you I am also born in Ahmadiyyah family and migrated from Qadian to Rabwah and now living in London UK for last 25 years. I have registered myself on the forums.alislam.org to start some discussion. I only managed to post initial two posts then they banned me without explaining any reason. This is not a forum but a ‘Tableegh Seminar’, as they will shut you out as soon as you differ on any issue with them. Anyhow I praise your intellectual maturity and cool presentation on the TV debate. I think I have seen you once at Fulham?
Keep up the good work going!
Kashif Nadeem

By: newobserver

newobserver — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:53:44 +0000

QUOTE-You are still making an ASSUMPTION that lower numbers means that prophet (as) is imferioir. -UNQUOTE

Please explain where did I make this assumption?

It is written by Mirza Sb in clear words that Hazrat Issa as was inferior most of the prophets (nauzubillah). I cannot understand why are you accusing me of such a stupid statement.

Please open your eyes and read – it was a statement made by your prophet:

قرآن شریف اور انجیل سے ثابت ہے کہ یہودیوں نے حضرت عیسی علیہ السلام کو رد کر دیا تھا اور اصلاح مخلوق میں تمام نبیوں سے ان کا گرا ہوا نمبر تھا۔

Repeat – it was a statement made be your prophet Mirza Ghulam. Read it and then reply, please.

By: rationalist

rationalist — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:06:49 +0000

WE NEED AHMADIS TO EXPLAIN 3 POINTS, THEN WE CAN MOVE ONE:

1. WHY DID THE MIRZA WRITE TO DR. ADBUL HAKIM KHAN THAT ALL MUSLIMS WHO HAVE NOT BELIEVED IN HIM ARE KAFIRS IN 1906?

2. THEN HE WROTE IN HAQIAQTUAL WAHY(1907) THAT HE DENIED EVER SAYING THAT.

3. ALSO, IN HAQIAQTUAL WAHY HE ALSO WROTE THAT THERE ARE TWO TYPES OF KUFR.

A–ONE GROUP WHICH IS TOTALLY OUTSIDE THE PALE OF ISLAM.
B—AND THE OTHER GROUP WHICH IS STILL MUSLIM.

BUT THEN HE WRITES THAT THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE IN THESE TWO GROUPS IN THE EYES OF ALLAH.

CAN SOMONE SCAN THE RELEVANT PAGES OF HAQIQATUAL WAHY AND POST THEM?

By: peace

peace — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:58:46 +0000

Dear brother newobserver,
‘I am sorry but your are denying the person you believe to be a prophet:’
You are still making an ASSUMPTION that lower numbers means that prophet (as) is imferioir. Where in Promised messiah(as) writings does he say or imply that lower number means he is inferior. I completely agree that isa(as) had lowest numbers. No doubt about it. The Quran says that the job of the prophet is only to covey the message and nothing more. So if people did not convert, you think it is the prophet’s fault? No. It is the people’s themselves and it is Allah who opens peoples hearts.
Promised messiah (as) may have only used that as a technique to shut the christian critics about the Holy prophet(saw).

By: peace

peace — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:57:20 +0000

peace

By: exAthiest

exAthiest — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:33:34 +0000

Thanks Tahir,

I think this is the essential question to ponder before initiating any search or any argument for that matter.

I was hoping this would register in some of the participants of this debate.

If you are trying to win the debate you will not likely find the truth. Your objective has to be the search otherwise you will blind yourself.

best regards