From the LA Times, Qadiani propaganda machine in full swing:
Pakistan officially labels the Ahmadiyya sect non-Muslim and forbids Ahmadis from practicing some of Islam’s most basic elements.
Reporting from Chino – During the last days of Ramadan, Ahmad Chaudhry Nuruddin shut himself inside a small cubicle at the Bait ul Hameed Mosque with only a mattress, a chair and a few religious books.
The slightly stooped 79-year-old strung a white sheet over the entrance to perfect his isolation.
For the next few days, Nuruddin would follow the Islamic custom of I’tikaf, in which believers become virtual hermits, secluding themselves from the world to focus on the divine.
“You spend your time remembering that God Almighty has created the world for the benefit of its people,” he said. “He created the sun, the moon, the planets, the vegetables and fruits, and he sends the waters so people can enjoy those fruits.”
Educated, kindly and broad-minded, Nuruddin seems the very embodiment of a religious man.
But back home in Pakistan, he says, he can’t even call himself a Muslim without fear of prison, harassment or death.
“We are not allowed to say our prayers openly,” said Nuruddin, who was visiting from Lahore. “We can’t call our mosque a mosque.”
The palatial 27,000-square-foot mosque in Chino is one of the biggest in Southern California and serves about 800 people belonging to the Ahmadiyya sect.
The sect ran afoul of mainstream Islam in the late 19th century by proclaiming founder Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad as the long-awaited Messiah destined to be the “reformer of the age.”
Traditional Islam holds that Muhammad was the last in the line of holy prophets.
In 1974, the Pakistani parliament, persuaded by orthodox clerics, declared Ahmadis to be non-Muslims. Ten years later it adopted an ordinance forbidding them from practicing some of the most basic elements of Islam including the call to prayer, citation of the Koran and recitation of the Kalimah, the defining phrase of Islam, which states that there is no God but God and that Muhammad is his prophet. Violators face up to three years in jail and a fine.
Amnesty International says Ahmadis have been slain in Pakistan for their faith with little or no effort by the government to protect them or to find the killers.
Pakistan denies this, saying perpetrators of violence have been arrested and that intolerance toward religious minorities is not tolerated.
“The Ahmadi beliefs are in absolute contravention to Muslim beliefs, but everyone has equal rights of worship in Pakistan,” said Nadeem Kiani, spokesman for the Embassy of Pakistan in Washington. “There are some people who try to incite sectarian violence from time to time to carry out their own agendas, but as far as the government and 99% of the general public are concerned, there are no problems with Ahmadis.”
He did say, however, that members of the sect should identify themselves as Ahmadis and not Muslims.
Ahmadis say that denies their identity.
“In this country, you have complete freedom to worship,” said Imam Shamshad Nasir, the spiritual leader of the Chino mosque. “How can we have all this freedom in a Christian country but no Muslim countries offer the same kind of freedom?”
Shamshad served as a missionary in Ghana and Sierra Leone and bubbles over with enthusiasm for his faith. He writes newspaper columns in English and Urdu, speaks at interfaith gatherings and has a weekly radio segment. “Understanding Islam”airs Tuesdays at 9:30 a.m. on KCAA-AM (1050).
“We represent Islamic teachings for the modern man — old tea in new cups,” he said, sitting in his tidy, book-lined office.
“The founder of our sect said jihad means to struggle for a good cause, not to kill unbelievers,” he said. “We believe you should be loyal to your country, obey the authorities wherever you are. You should respect humanity regardless of race, color or religion and deal with the needy and the poor.”
The Ahmadi credo is “Love for all, hate for none.”
Still, people protest the sect.
A group of Muslims in New York put an advertisement in a Pakistani newspaper urging co-religionists to be on guard against Shamshad and his columns.
“He is deceiving people,” they wrote. “He is Ahmadiyya and he is not a Muslim. . . . Don’t ask him any questions, and ignore his answers.”
But local religious leaders are loath to declare members of the sect non-Muslims.
Shakeel Syed, executive director of the Islamic Shura Council of Southern California, an umbrella organization of mosques, said the sect shouldn’t be persecuted.
“If they have the same beliefs as all Muslims in the oneness of God and the finality of the prophet Muhammad, then they are Muslims,” he said. “And if they don’t subscribe to that, they are entitled to hold to what they believe is right but cannot be considered part of the mainstream Muslim community.”
He quickly noted: “I will not say they are not Muslims. I will not judge them for what they are and what they are not.”
Ahmadis tend to be highly educated. They claim a 99% literacy rate in Pakistan.
At Friday prayers in Chino recently, about 220 men, including doctors, engineers, lawyers and scientists, crowded into a carpeted room listening to Shamshad’s sermon. (The women, who are similarly accomplished, are kept strictly separate.)
Pakistan’s only Nobel Prize winner, physicist Abdus Salam, was an Ahmadi who moved to Europe. His son-in-law, Dr. Hamid Rahman, is a member of the Chino mosque and an orthopedic surgeon.
He said there are at least 3,000 Ahmadis in California.
When the prayers ended, Naser Noor emerged to put on his shoes. The 39-year-old Rancho Cucamonga banker is originally from the city of Peshawar, a bastion of Islamic militancy.
“You never revealed your faith or it could blow up on you,” he said. “When I went back in 2008, it was totally intimidating.”
A video posted on YouTube shows what appear to be police standing by as a group of men uses chisels and paint to remove Arabic and Koranic phrases from an Ahmadi mosque in the east-central city of Faisalabad. Meanwhile, distraught Ahmadis prostrate themselves in tearful prayer.
Such incidents have caused many to feel a deep sense of estrangement from their homeland.
“When I heard about the law making us non-Muslims, I felt I was no longer from Pakistan,” said Anwer Khan, general secretary of the mosque. “I don’t hate it because I am from there, but I lost my love for my country.”
Still, he says, he has hope.
“We have 15,500 mosques all over the world. We opened 123 mosques this year. So who is winning?” he said.
“Hatred always loses. Love always wins.”
I know Shamshad, he doesnt want to debate with anyone.
I challenge him to come to this website and debate with me.
what a very one sided and very biased article…it makes the ahamadis seem as if they’re victims and totally innocent. Americans view Mormonism as a break away cult from Christianity and still up to this day viewed as such. Ahmadis are the Mormon version of Muslims.
lol it’s like speaking to Israelis saying Israel was founed in peace and harmoney
He says they’re the ‘peaceful’ muslims and they have to obey any country they are in. So what if they were in Nazi Germany or in Soviet Russia? Would they stand alongside Hitler or Stalin, because the Jihad of the sword is gone? Oh please what utter rubbish!
15, 500 mosques? where are they? lol Is it like there are 200,000,000 ahmadis in the world?
You’re winning? Why is it most of the Muslim world doesn’t even know what ahmadiyya is?
this article is lie ahmadis are liers they bribe police in pakistan make fake cases against each other. to apply for asslum in uk and and other country. Ahamdis are fully backed by USA and UK ISRAIEL . USA post office have just published 100 jubille stamps for ahamdis that shows how much suport they have . Ahamdi killed a Khatmenubat member in Nankna Sahaib near lahore those ahamdis who killed are still not caught bez Governer Salman Tashir of Punjam pakistan is pro qadiani that shows how strong these ahmadis are in Pakistan .On botom links is given about Muhammad Malik who was killed by Ahamdis.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBKs5f09Xqw
I find it interesting that this story is being view as one big fabrication by the Ahmadiyya Jamaat, and that somehow the intention of our jamaat is to promote ourselves as victims. This situation is a paradox in itself… People who are victimized in this world are being looked as liars and that their so- called suffering is looked as nonexistent. Furthermore the “real victims” of this situation, the persecuters, are in the right when kill and murder the innocent. In reality, to dub the nonAhmadi Muslims as being the victims of this situation may very well be accurate. For although they may pretend to be the kings of this world, the will surely have to meet the King of the next world.
As a Muslim in America I find some of the views of foreign or immigrant muslims disheartening. A religion like Islam that imbibes a perfect moral and spiritual code so that man can understand his purpose in life and to know how to be in harmony with his fellow man and his Creator is being distorted to conform to the narrow views of religious clerics or mullahs from abroad. It sickens me that this imported hipporcracy has found its way to America. The Ahmadiyya Muslims practice what they preach. My fellow brothers and sisters it is time that we wake up from this self righteous stupor and remove the veil of separtism and bigotry from the face of Islam. After this maybe Allah will accept our prayers and True ISLAM will reign once again. Ahmadiyatt Zindabar!
True Islam existed and was perfect 1400 years ago
not something that was created 100 years ago
so think about it and leave the falsehood and come to Islam of Prophet Muhammad (PUBH) and his companions
Ali you really need to ask yourself a few questions :
Why havent your prophetic books been translated into multiple languages? Or atleast English ?
Why are you forced to pay chanda to the jammat ?
Where is it written in the Quran/Hadith that chanda is a compulsion?
Where is it written that you have to pay 6.25% of your wealth to the jammat ?
Why doesnt your jammat allows free public debating with other muslims scholars ?
What has ahmadiyya done for islam in all these years ?
Why is that every new leader of the jammat has always been from the Mirzai family ?
When you will ponder deep into these questions you will come to know that Ahmadiyya is nothing more than a family owned business , it has nothing and i repeat nothing to do with Islam. Your prophet has deceived you , your leaders are deceiving you. More than half of the ahmadiya population doesnt bother reading their own books.
I have an advice for you ; read your own books with an open mind and you will come to know that your prophet brang more ill repute to islam than anyone else. Mirza Ghulam is one of those liars our beloved Prophet Muhammad (SAW) warned us about. May Allah give you guidence.
Ameen
Salam.
Funny to see a whole bunch of crazies ranting and raving amongst each other…
Pose me some questions bruh? I will show you how to answer questions in a civil way!
Please do grow up Mohsin.Emotions won’t do you any good! Stop deceiving yourself and start researching on Ahmadiyya !