Audio From “A Fracture in Belief”

by Shahid on July 6, 2009

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Here is the audio from my talk at the Morden Islamic Centre last Saturday. There is an introductory piece by Mr. Nasim, one of the Centre’s Committee members. (I start talking about 8 minutes in.)

It’s the first time I’ve spoken in public about some of my reasons for reverting to Islam and some of the thinking I went through before my belief in Ahmadiyya finally fractured.

I’ve been asked to speak at other mosques and insha’Allah I will consider these requests. There’s no shortage of projects, alhamdulillah.

The link below takes you to the audio, which is around an hour long. You can right-click it and save it if you wish, it’s licensed under Creative Commons.

A Fracture In Belief

I’d like to thank all the brothers at Morden Islamic Centre for making this possible and for giving us such a warm reception and also for going out of their way to drop us off home again. Jazakallah khayr.

I’d love to have your feedback insha’Allah. (All abusive messages or threats will just be ignored.)

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Farhan July 7, 2009 at 1:20 pm

Finally!!!

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EX-AHMADIS July 11, 2009 at 7:46 am

I can confirm that none of which was stated by brother Shahid is a lie.

Every single point mentioned is valid and I had also heard whilst part of this cult.

The “begging letters” were an absolute nightmare.

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Farooq July 22, 2009 at 8:13 am

Mr. Nasim is FOLLOWER OF HAZRAT MIRZA GHULAM AHMAD. Just before he finished his introduction of Shahid, he REPEATED THE WORDS OF HMGA AND PRAISED BRITISH GOVERNMENT FOR PROVIDING MUSLIMS:
1- Freedom of speech
2- Freedom of belief
3- Right to live in peace.

This proves 2 points:
1) Allah swt promise with HMGA that those who don’t agree with him, Allah will force them to agree with him (HMGA) through POWERFUL ATTACKS.
2) There are MILLIONS of HMGA follwers, at least in Europe and North America.

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islam976 July 29, 2009 at 10:23 am

“I never heard the word “da’wah”?.. How intriguing. The word “Da’wat ilallah” has been in use among Jamaat for decades.

I still think that the problem arose from poor upbringing.. And now that you have disclosed that your mother was once excommunicated, it all makes sense.

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Shahid July 29, 2009 at 6:56 pm

The problem? What, that I left your cult and reverted to Islam? I think that’s a great problem to have.

As for taking potshots at my mother and my upbringing without actually being aware of the facts, I’d expect nothing less from the blind devotee of a man who was so undignified that he referred to his own wife as a whore.

For your information, my mother had an excellent relationship with Mirza Tahir, as did I, but you don’t deserve the details. You would be surprised. We saw him whenever we wanted and exchanged personal correspondence and phone calls.

You know what’s revealing, is that for a cult that bangs on about “religious tolerance” and “religious freedom”, you don’t like other people having it. You go so far as to intimidate, bully, harass, threaten with murder and denigrate entire families of people who are either dissidents or departees from your pious fraud. When you people attack me with slurs, death threats and such-like, in the manner of your foul-mouthed-founder, it makes me think “alhamdulillah, I’m so glad I left that. Alhamdulillah, others are joining me. Insha’Allah, more are joining the ranks of Islam and leaving the fitna of Mirzaiyyat all the time”.

Lutf, I used to consider you honourable, if misguided. Now I know what you are and who we are dealing with. Thanks for revealing yourself.

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findings August 1, 2009 at 9:34 pm

I can get hold of these begging letters. very easily. in front, im reading one right now! didnt realise these lunatics announce a ‘kickout’ from the jamaat after fajr prayers at the mosque!! oh these letters are so invaluable!! if only it wouldnt get my mother in trouble for exposing them….i could make a killing out of these somewhat strange, entertaining and disturbing begging letters.

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