Comments on: The Case Of The Missing Pages

By: Shahid

Shahid — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:20:00 +0000

1. Mirza Ghulam Ahmad had this belief for most of his life. A belief he later said was shirk. Has any prophet held beliefs of shirk in their lives? No.
2. What was Mirza Sahib’s reason for overturning a Qur’anic injunction?
3. Mirza Sahib’s life and character, whilst disgusting, never came into it. The Qur’an and Sunnah have united Muslims on Finality of Prophethood for centuries. Mirza Sahib himself believed in Finality of Prophethood for most of his life.
4. What has this got to do with the `aqeeda of a Muslim?
5. If you mean wahi through Jibreel, yes.

By: rationalist

rationalist — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:40:30 +0000

Flute, wassup boy?

1. The majority of muslims do believe that jesus was raised skyward and then into one of the heavens. This was based on the information that the muslims had, which was limited. Some people did think that Jesus died then went to heaven. No muslims ever believed that jesus was buried in Kashmir, that my friend is a fairy tale that was stolen from other people. Ever heard of plagurism? MGA was a great plagurizer.

1.a. Remember the Koran never refers to jesus’ return. It is in the hadith where Jesus’ return is mentioned. All muslims always believed that Jesus’ return was to be physcially. No muslim ever understood it as spiritual.

1.b. On a personal note, I dont know what to believe, I think time will tell. We will find out soon enough. MGA was not Jesus ibn Maryam, Jesus was supposed to live in this world for 40 years, during which Islam would be victorious. With ahmadiyyat, that didnt happen.

2. Jihad in the Koran has three phases:
a–spiritual–meccan period
b–defensive–early and middle medinian period
c–offensive–late in the life of Muhammad

2.a. Read chapter 9 in the Koran and read the context of those verses.–thats your homework assignment.

3. We are refuting MGA in general becuase he started a new religion. In the census on 1900 he wanted ahmadis do be distinguished as ahmadis instead of muslims.

3.a. If I was MGA i would have argued with all sects of muslims during this census. I would have argued that we are all muslims, lets stick together.

RESPOND TO THE ABOVE FIRST THEN WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.

By: flute

flute — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 05:11:12 +0000

Can anyone one of you answer the following:

1. Do you believe that Jesus was raised to the heavens?If so will he therefore return?
2. What is the concept of Jihad in the Quran?
3. Are you refuting the claims of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani based on his cliams to be a Mujaddid, Mahdi & Messiah, Prophet or the belief that no one can claim the last two from God (SWT).

4. What is the concept of a Muhaddas or WaliUllah?

5. Did God cease to communicate with man after the Holy Prophet (SAW)?

Thanks

flute

By: newobserver

newobserver — Wed, 11 Mar 2009 14:32:19 +0000

May be his students are writing better because they have hidden most of the stuff he wrote. Why do you want to judge his claim from his students. Hussain has given a proof that Mirza Ghulam lied. You should check the proof and once you are convinced by research you should also say Mirza Ghulam was a liar. However, if you think Hussain’s research is flawed, then please point out the flaw.

What have students of Mirza Ghulam got to do with his lies?

By: Hussain

Hussain — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:17:46 +0000

…and what do his students have to do with his claim? He claims that he is ALL the Prophets wrapped up into one nice Punjabi package. Not only does he claim to be the second coming of the Holy Prophet Muhammad (SAW) and his equal… but he goes on to claim that he is SUPERIOR to the Holy Prophet Muhammad (SAW) and you expect me to RESPECT that? His students may be doing good service for the cause of Islam, that doesn’t mean I will accept him or his claim. He on many occasions has attributed sayings to the Holy Prophet Muhammad (SAW) and even Almighty Allah (SWT)… you expect me to stay silent concerning him?

…with all due respect, I think you need to redo your assessment.

By: profitprophet

profitprophet — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 06:01:43 +0000

Mr. Rashid

Don’t write irrelevant stuffs if you can not comment on the subject.
Mirzais are champion of distorting the meaning of Qur’an and ahadith so no wonder if they produce their own version of Qur’an and ahadith to justify abrogation of Jihad.

btw you are talking about “Jihad Wathch” website of coward and hypocrites. They don’t have balls to reply to our objections. Most of their articles are based on conjectures and surmises. btw why do you visit Jihadwatch? Do you have any doubt on your faith? If you visit such sites other than the purpose of refuting them then it means you are useless piece of crap who instead of learning his own religion waste his time working as cheerleader.

By: Hussain

Hussain — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 15:52:54 +0000

Double post. (SEE POST BELOW)

By: rashid

rashid — Sat, 07 Mar 2009 22:50:30 +0000

@hussain

When i read literature in service of Islam by Lahore ahmadiyya Movement that totally knocks out the jews and christians false propaganda, which jew and christian enemies of islam are spew using the literature, speeches and actions of “scholars” (i.e. people whom you consider righteous, true and scholarly muslims) of islam, i am totally amazed by islamic academic excellence of Lahore ahamdiyya Movement. I have seen articles of jews and Christians on ‘Jihad Watch’ and their answers by Lahori ahamdies. i think no one has produced better literature in defense of islam than them.
this brings to mind if Mirza Ghulam ahmad was kind of a person as potrayed by you then how come his students produced such a scholarly literature on islam that totally knocks out allegations of jews and christians on Holy Quran, Holy prophet and Islam???
I think you need to redo your assessment.
following are websites of students of mirza ghulam ahmad:
http://ahmadiyya.org/
http://aaiil.org/

I will suggest you to read what mirza ghulam ahmad students wrote.