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	<description>&#34;Love for Tyranny, Hatred for Muslims&#34;</description>
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		<title>By: IJKBaluch</title>
		<link>http://thecult.info/blog/2008/10/29/almost-four-years-on/comment-page-2/#comment-2959</link>
		<dc:creator>IJKBaluch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shahid said.
{I began contributing heavily to the ahmedi.org forum and soon became a moderator. After around three thousand posts under various names, I left the forum&#124;At last my claim that there are many fiticious ID holder at Ahmedi.org proved by Shahid himself in his post dt 28.10.2008.

Similarly you cannot deny now that you are not using many fictitious &amp; Fake ID at this forum.

Now you are proved cheater &amp; liar always owns short memory.

At last truth came out of a grand liar Shahid.

Mr. Scholar there is no bad truth false truth or ugly truth as you mentioned. There is only one &amp; only truth &amp; only truth.

you said,
{they will revert to the only deen acceptable to Allah}

Its true but you enter into brand of Islam famous in Mullahisam only &amp; you cannot deny that there are 72 hell bond sect who also claims that their deen is of  true deen of Allah?

My Allah save all from Mullah&#039;s Islam.

Before you kicked out of this One True Naji Jamaat  have&#039;t you observed any horrendous abuse and vitriolic hatred directed towards people kicked out..?

This is you&#039;re another big lie &amp; note this that liar can never succeed.

I am surprised that you are still not confident of getting Muslim by saying,

Your brother in Islam???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shahid said.<br />
{I began contributing heavily to the ahmedi.org forum and soon became a moderator. After around three thousand posts under various names, I left the forum|At last my claim that there are many fiticious ID holder at Ahmedi.org proved by Shahid himself in his post dt 28.10.2008.</p>
<p>Similarly you cannot deny now that you are not using many fictitious &amp; Fake ID at this forum.</p>
<p>Now you are proved cheater &amp; liar always owns short memory.</p>
<p>At last truth came out of a grand liar Shahid.</p>
<p>Mr. Scholar there is no bad truth false truth or ugly truth as you mentioned. There is only one &amp; only truth &amp; only truth.</p>
<p>you said,<br />
{they will revert to the only deen acceptable to Allah}</p>
<p>Its true but you enter into brand of Islam famous in Mullahisam only &amp; you cannot deny that there are 72 hell bond sect who also claims that their deen is of  true deen of Allah?</p>
<p>My Allah save all from Mullah&#8217;s Islam.</p>
<p>Before you kicked out of this One True Naji Jamaat  have&#8217;t you observed any horrendous abuse and vitriolic hatred directed towards people kicked out..?</p>
<p>This is you&#8217;re another big lie &amp; note this that liar can never succeed.</p>
<p>I am surprised that you are still not confident of getting Muslim by saying,</p>
<p>Your brother in Islam???</p>
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		<title>By: Farhan</title>
		<link>http://thecult.info/blog/2008/10/29/almost-four-years-on/comment-page-2/#comment-727</link>
		<dc:creator>Farhan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 21:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ex-Ahmadis, wow, im truly humbled by that post...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ex-Ahmadis, wow, im truly humbled by that post&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: EX-AHMADIS</title>
		<link>http://thecult.info/blog/2008/10/29/almost-four-years-on/comment-page-2/#comment-724</link>
		<dc:creator>EX-AHMADIS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 12:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Assalāmu ‘alaykum wa rahmatullāhi wa barakātuhu.

The above discussion shows the typical way in which a closed mind will behave.

May Allah reward all your efforts in this good work; however as an advice I would strongly recommend that you not waste too much time on rhetoric and argument.

Instead continue to learn and practice true Islam and worry less about the Ahmadi&#039;s, the Islam based upon the Quran and Sunnah of our beautiful Prophet PBUH.

For the record I come from a family in which 80% of us have left Ahmadiyat (or been kicked out) depending on whose version you believe.

I know it can be hard when we have family members that are still ignorant but we must remember whoever Allah guides no one can misguide and whoever Allah misguides no one can guide.



Was-salāmu ‘alaykum wa rahmatullāh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Assalāmu ‘alaykum wa rahmatullāhi wa barakātuhu.</p>
<p>The above discussion shows the typical way in which a closed mind will behave.</p>
<p>May Allah reward all your efforts in this good work; however as an advice I would strongly recommend that you not waste too much time on rhetoric and argument.</p>
<p>Instead continue to learn and practice true Islam and worry less about the Ahmadi&#8217;s, the Islam based upon the Quran and Sunnah of our beautiful Prophet PBUH.</p>
<p>For the record I come from a family in which 80% of us have left Ahmadiyat (or been kicked out) depending on whose version you believe.</p>
<p>I know it can be hard when we have family members that are still ignorant but we must remember whoever Allah guides no one can misguide and whoever Allah misguides no one can guide.</p>
<p>Was-salāmu ‘alaykum wa rahmatullāh.</p>
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		<title>By: Shahid</title>
		<link>http://thecult.info/blog/2008/10/29/almost-four-years-on/comment-page-2/#comment-716</link>
		<dc:creator>Shahid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 21:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are right my brother in Islam. It is the silent readers we are working for insha&#039;Allah. I was one of those silent readers once and alhamdulillah, through the Rahmah of my Creator, I reverted to Islam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are right my brother in Islam. It is the silent readers we are working for insha&#8217;Allah. I was one of those silent readers once and alhamdulillah, through the Rahmah of my Creator, I reverted to Islam.</p>
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		<title>By: newobserver</title>
		<link>http://thecult.info/blog/2008/10/29/almost-four-years-on/comment-page-2/#comment-715</link>
		<dc:creator>newobserver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 15:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Sulaiman had no answer and he will not reply now. That is unfortunate - but I have seen it many times I get used to it. Every time I start with good intentions of either convincing or being convinced, however, Ahmadis leave the discussion in between, start using abusive language. I however, believe, Allah is seeing our efforts to present the message of truth with love and patience and I believe, those Ahmadis who are confused about their belief get enlightened with such discussions. 

That is the reason, I will continue, insha&#039;Allah - though Ahmadis try their best that I am put off or start using language like Mirza Sb.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Sulaiman had no answer and he will not reply now. That is unfortunate &#8211; but I have seen it many times I get used to it. Every time I start with good intentions of either convincing or being convinced, however, Ahmadis leave the discussion in between, start using abusive language. I however, believe, Allah is seeing our efforts to present the message of truth with love and patience and I believe, those Ahmadis who are confused about their belief get enlightened with such discussions. </p>
<p>That is the reason, I will continue, insha&#8217;Allah &#8211; though Ahmadis try their best that I am put off or start using language like Mirza Sb.</p>
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		<title>By: Shahid</title>
		<link>http://thecult.info/blog/2008/10/29/almost-four-years-on/comment-page-2/#comment-714</link>
		<dc:creator>Shahid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dictionary definition of avatar, noun:

&quot;Hindu Mythology. the descent of a deity to the earth in an incarnate form or some manifest shape; the incarnation of a god.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dictionary definition of avatar, noun:</p>
<p>&#8220;Hindu Mythology. the descent of a deity to the earth in an incarnate form or some manifest shape; the incarnation of a god.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: newobserver</title>
		<link>http://thecult.info/blog/2008/10/29/almost-four-years-on/comment-page-2/#comment-713</link>
		<dc:creator>newobserver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 12:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am pretty confused how the matter is closed. You are saying two things in one breath. You say that you agree he is an Avtar of Krishna in a metaphoric sense however is not a reincarnate not even in metaphoric sense because it is not in Islam. What is the difference in Avtar and reincarnate?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am pretty confused how the matter is closed. You are saying two things in one breath. You say that you agree he is an Avtar of Krishna in a metaphoric sense however is not a reincarnate not even in metaphoric sense because it is not in Islam. What is the difference in Avtar and reincarnate?</p>
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		<title>By: syed sulaiman Adnan</title>
		<link>http://thecult.info/blog/2008/10/29/almost-four-years-on/comment-page-2/#comment-712</link>
		<dc:creator>syed sulaiman Adnan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 08:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Newobserver, why are you keep trying to irritate me with your nonsense? are you really trying to make me look like &quot;A FOOL NEVER LEARNT?&quot; I told you the matter is closed and am no longer interested to pursue with it, please try to understand.

However, let me re-emphasised my stand as follows :-

It is undisputed fact that all the messengers of God duty are to reform,therefore, it is related with this FACTUAL SENSE or CONTEX that Hazrat Ahmad claimed to be an Avtar of Krishna, not in the sense or contex that you deem it to be, that is REINCARNATED, because being a muslim I do not take reincarnated something as a
FACT.

It is something that does not exist in the teaching of Islam, therefore, cannot be taken whether in metaphoric or literal sense or contex, such thing simply doesn&#039;t exit in Islam and I do not beleive it does, so, how am I going to translate something that that does not exit in whatever sense (be it metaphoric or litera?).

Please try to understand, there is nothing more to be discussed,
Thanks for your prayer, God bless you brother.

Matter closed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Newobserver, why are you keep trying to irritate me with your nonsense? are you really trying to make me look like &#8220;A FOOL NEVER LEARNT?&#8221; I told you the matter is closed and am no longer interested to pursue with it, please try to understand.</p>
<p>However, let me re-emphasised my stand as follows :-</p>
<p>It is undisputed fact that all the messengers of God duty are to reform,therefore, it is related with this FACTUAL SENSE or CONTEX that Hazrat Ahmad claimed to be an Avtar of Krishna, not in the sense or contex that you deem it to be, that is REINCARNATED, because being a muslim I do not take reincarnated something as a<br />
FACT.</p>
<p>It is something that does not exist in the teaching of Islam, therefore, cannot be taken whether in metaphoric or literal sense or contex, such thing simply doesn&#8217;t exit in Islam and I do not beleive it does, so, how am I going to translate something that that does not exit in whatever sense (be it metaphoric or litera?).</p>
<p>Please try to understand, there is nothing more to be discussed,<br />
Thanks for your prayer, God bless you brother.</p>
<p>Matter closed.</p>
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		<title>By: newobserver</title>
		<link>http://thecult.info/blog/2008/10/29/almost-four-years-on/comment-page-2/#comment-709</link>
		<dc:creator>newobserver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 14:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you look at all the conversation you had on this blog - you basically denied reincarnation in Ahmadiyya beliefs. When I gave you evidence that Mirza Sb claimed himself to be an Avtar of Krishna you said it is a metaphor. However, you still don&#039;t believe in a metaphoric re-incarnation (despite clear writing of Mirza Sb), however you believe in metaphoric Avtar, though you never explained the difference between the two.

Then I gave an evidence which proves that Mirza Sb claims to be Krishan for Hindus just as he claims to be Messiah for Muslims. So if he claim of Krishan is metaphor, the claim for Messiah is also a metaphor. Here you simply closed the matter because you think it is foolish to explain beliefs of Ahmadis to others.

Why is it foolish, by the way? This blog is being read by Muslims and Ahmadis all over the world. You have a golden opportunity to explain your religion and call people to accept your belief. But you think it is foolish - why? Please don&#039;t run away and I request you evaluate the truth and accept the truth whatever it is. May Allah help you to look for truth. Amin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you look at all the conversation you had on this blog &#8211; you basically denied reincarnation in Ahmadiyya beliefs. When I gave you evidence that Mirza Sb claimed himself to be an Avtar of Krishna you said it is a metaphor. However, you still don&#8217;t believe in a metaphoric re-incarnation (despite clear writing of Mirza Sb), however you believe in metaphoric Avtar, though you never explained the difference between the two.</p>
<p>Then I gave an evidence which proves that Mirza Sb claims to be Krishan for Hindus just as he claims to be Messiah for Muslims. So if he claim of Krishan is metaphor, the claim for Messiah is also a metaphor. Here you simply closed the matter because you think it is foolish to explain beliefs of Ahmadis to others.</p>
<p>Why is it foolish, by the way? This blog is being read by Muslims and Ahmadis all over the world. You have a golden opportunity to explain your religion and call people to accept your belief. But you think it is foolish &#8211; why? Please don&#8217;t run away and I request you evaluate the truth and accept the truth whatever it is. May Allah help you to look for truth. Amin</p>
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		<title>By: newobserver</title>
		<link>http://thecult.info/blog/2008/10/29/almost-four-years-on/comment-page-2/#comment-707</link>
		<dc:creator>newobserver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 09:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Sulaiman,

If you don&#039;t have answers that is fine, we cannot push to reply.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Sulaiman,</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t have answers that is fine, we cannot push to reply.</p>
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