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	<title>Comments on: More Qadiani &#8220;Love for All, Hatred for None&#8221;</title>
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	<description>&#34;Love for Tyranny, Hatred for Muslims&#34;</description>
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		<title>By: newobserver</title>
		<link>http://thecult.info/blog/2008/10/22/more-qadiani-love-for-all-hatred-for-none/comment-page-1/#comment-21209</link>
		<dc:creator>newobserver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 08:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How stupid. He is categorically used the words 
جو کچہ حرجانہ ۔۔ ایک تجارتی روپیہ  کی مدت مذکورہ تک بند رہنے سے متصور ہے 

What else is the interest.

Yes he said I will only eat interest if I win. Yes if he will lose he does not get the interest as well lose the money he put as a bet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How stupid. He is categorically used the words<br />
جو کچہ حرجانہ ۔۔ ایک تجارتی روپیہ  کی مدت مذکورہ تک بند رہنے سے متصور ہے </p>
<p>What else is the interest.</p>
<p>Yes he said I will only eat interest if I win. Yes if he will lose he does not get the interest as well lose the money he put as a bet.</p>
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		<title>By: Ahmad</title>
		<link>http://thecult.info/blog/2008/10/22/more-qadiani-love-for-all-hatred-for-none/comment-page-1/#comment-21202</link>
		<dc:creator>Ahmad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 01:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the leadership of a religion is not corrupt and is honest, there is no need for Allah to send anyone from himself -- or is there? So, when the Imam comes that is the time when, according to the verdict of God, the society has already become corrupt, mostly at the top(so-called Ullma) because when the leadership is destroyed, then the ordinary people are also destroyed(misguided).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the leadership of a religion is not corrupt and is honest, there is no need for Allah to send anyone from himself &#8212; or is there? So, when the Imam comes that is the time when, according to the verdict of God, the society has already become corrupt, mostly at the top(so-called Ullma) because when the leadership is destroyed, then the ordinary people are also destroyed(misguided).</p>
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		<title>By: zia</title>
		<link>http://thecult.info/blog/2008/10/22/more-qadiani-love-for-all-hatred-for-none/comment-page-1/#comment-20932</link>
		<dc:creator>zia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 17:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>please read the context of those verses 
that is address from PAST and with CONDITION 

start reading from verse 7:23 u ll get the idea and falsehood of ur jammat will be exposed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>please read the context of those verses<br />
that is address from PAST and with CONDITION </p>
<p>start reading from verse 7:23 u ll get the idea and falsehood of ur jammat will be exposed</p>
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		<title>By: Ahmad ali</title>
		<link>http://thecult.info/blog/2008/10/22/more-qadiani-love-for-all-hatred-for-none/comment-page-1/#comment-20913</link>
		<dc:creator>Ahmad ali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 06:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>check in the QURAN  CH 7 V 34,35,36 before you talk</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>check in the QURAN  CH 7 V 34,35,36 before you talk</p>
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		<title>By: Shahid</title>
		<link>http://thecult.info/blog/2008/10/22/more-qadiani-love-for-all-hatred-for-none/comment-page-1/#comment-18287</link>
		<dc:creator>Shahid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 20:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think Z is talking to you bro.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think Z is talking to you bro.</p>
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		<title>By: Rationalist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rationalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 20:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ z

I have no idea what you are talking about..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ z</p>
<p>I have no idea what you are talking about..</p>
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		<title>By: Z</title>
		<link>http://thecult.info/blog/2008/10/22/more-qadiani-love-for-all-hatred-for-none/comment-page-1/#comment-18277</link>
		<dc:creator>Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 17:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Much of what you say has no credibility: &quot;When they make mothers cry...&quot; Are there any examples of this? What do they say? Why would they say this?

&quot;...because of the evil things they say and do...&quot; The Love For All and Hatred for None Bus Campaign that is currently run - is that evil? I&#039;m afraid your arguments are not credible.

The fact that you refer to Ahmadis as Kaafirs (non-muslims) is a wrong in itself. I understand that they are allowed to be called Kaafirs because a community of scholars have agreed that they are Kaafirs. However, if these scholars had agreed that, say for example, Marriage was haraam, then would marriage then be haraam? Once the Prophet (saw) was in a battle and one of his companions was about to kill the enemy. The enemy said the kalma, perhaps in order to be saved, but the companion still killed him. Later on, Muhammad (saw) said that he shouldn&#039;t have killed him because if a person says the kalma, then he is a Muslim. Therefore, what the group of scholars have decreed on Ahmadis is unlawful and produces hate - thus there are unjust persecutions of Ahmadis in different countries across the world.

&quot;So when Qadianis threaten to beat people up and kill them, when they make children cry because of the evil things they say, when they make mothers cry because of the evil things they say and do, when they humiliate children, when they spread falsehood of such a filthy nature, one has to ask, who is really the persecutor and who is the persecuted?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Much of what you say has no credibility: &#8220;When they make mothers cry&#8230;&#8221; Are there any examples of this? What do they say? Why would they say this?</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;because of the evil things they say and do&#8230;&#8221; The Love For All and Hatred for None Bus Campaign that is currently run &#8211; is that evil? I&#8217;m afraid your arguments are not credible.</p>
<p>The fact that you refer to Ahmadis as Kaafirs (non-muslims) is a wrong in itself. I understand that they are allowed to be called Kaafirs because a community of scholars have agreed that they are Kaafirs. However, if these scholars had agreed that, say for example, Marriage was haraam, then would marriage then be haraam? Once the Prophet (saw) was in a battle and one of his companions was about to kill the enemy. The enemy said the kalma, perhaps in order to be saved, but the companion still killed him. Later on, Muhammad (saw) said that he shouldn&#8217;t have killed him because if a person says the kalma, then he is a Muslim. Therefore, what the group of scholars have decreed on Ahmadis is unlawful and produces hate &#8211; thus there are unjust persecutions of Ahmadis in different countries across the world.</p>
<p>&#8220;So when Qadianis threaten to beat people up and kill them, when they make children cry because of the evil things they say, when they make mothers cry because of the evil things they say and do, when they humiliate children, when they spread falsehood of such a filthy nature, one has to ask, who is really the persecutor and who is the persecuted?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Element</title>
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		<dc:creator>Element</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 01:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>£3M... is that all!
Good value if its doubling up warehouse and office space in prime locality and a sign of the extra warehousing needed for the Humanity First work being co-ordinated from there - globally. 

If you guys need any financial questions asked about the accounts etc... seriously just ask one of the Ahmadi Delegates that attend the annual Gen Meeting ( Shura) where members query, approve and sign -off budgets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>£3M&#8230; is that all!<br />
Good value if its doubling up warehouse and office space in prime locality and a sign of the extra warehousing needed for the Humanity First work being co-ordinated from there &#8211; globally. </p>
<p>If you guys need any financial questions asked about the accounts etc&#8230; seriously just ask one of the Ahmadi Delegates that attend the annual Gen Meeting ( Shura) where members query, approve and sign -off budgets.</p>
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		<title>By: Element</title>
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		<dc:creator>Element</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 00:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you should re-read the passage stated. 
The payment is of &#039;damages&#039; determined by an independent arbitrator for the reward once deposited to await its claim and applies only if a claim is not substantiated / or conclusive.  This is not &#039;interest&#039; by any means. It could in effect be zero. Interest has to have a stated % return on capital. This does not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you should re-read the passage stated.<br />
The payment is of &#8216;damages&#8217; determined by an independent arbitrator for the reward once deposited to await its claim and applies only if a claim is not substantiated / or conclusive.  This is not &#8216;interest&#8217; by any means. It could in effect be zero. Interest has to have a stated % return on capital. This does not.</p>
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		<title>By: crankthatskunk</title>
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		<dc:creator>crankthatskunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brother Shahid, 

I will be in touch with you, very soon Inshallah. 

I had a look at the second company’s accounts for the Y/E 30 June 2008. 
I have picked up few curious things, as I expected.


Employment costs

No salaries or wages have been paid to employees, including the trustees, during the year.


Even though it is a trading company, according to the FS, but alas, no employment costs are listed. Curiously, all the building and construction work is carried out by this company without employees or any numerations paid to anyone. On the contrary, the main charity has staff and staff costs are listed in their FS.

Fixed Assets;

Building, plant and fittings were £1,233,660 at the start of the year an addition of £25,137 during the year is shown; after the depreciation it is valued at £1,190, 865 at the Y/E.

Plant and Machinery was £1,254,161 at the start but after the allowances for depreciations it valued only at £42,814. The other big items fixture and fittings which have net worth book value of £55,186 and Motor vehicles with a net book value of £45,700.

This company also has Broadcasting equipment with Net worth Value of £667,481 after allowances of depreciations. There was an edition of £225,760during the year. This proves that television MTA is also run through this company or its assets are acquired through this company. 

Ironically, there were no substantive additions in Land and Buildings during the FY ended on 30 June 2008. We can safely assume that over £10 millions spent during 2007/2008 on acquisition and constructions of the mosques are not listed as assets on the accounts of this charity either. 

I am checking on another issue, I will write further once I have done the necessary research.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brother Shahid, </p>
<p>I will be in touch with you, very soon Inshallah. </p>
<p>I had a look at the second company’s accounts for the Y/E 30 June 2008.<br />
I have picked up few curious things, as I expected.</p>
<p>Employment costs</p>
<p>No salaries or wages have been paid to employees, including the trustees, during the year.</p>
<p>Even though it is a trading company, according to the FS, but alas, no employment costs are listed. Curiously, all the building and construction work is carried out by this company without employees or any numerations paid to anyone. On the contrary, the main charity has staff and staff costs are listed in their FS.</p>
<p>Fixed Assets;</p>
<p>Building, plant and fittings were £1,233,660 at the start of the year an addition of £25,137 during the year is shown; after the depreciation it is valued at £1,190, 865 at the Y/E.</p>
<p>Plant and Machinery was £1,254,161 at the start but after the allowances for depreciations it valued only at £42,814. The other big items fixture and fittings which have net worth book value of £55,186 and Motor vehicles with a net book value of £45,700.</p>
<p>This company also has Broadcasting equipment with Net worth Value of £667,481 after allowances of depreciations. There was an edition of £225,760during the year. This proves that television MTA is also run through this company or its assets are acquired through this company. </p>
<p>Ironically, there were no substantive additions in Land and Buildings during the FY ended on 30 June 2008. We can safely assume that over £10 millions spent during 2007/2008 on acquisition and constructions of the mosques are not listed as assets on the accounts of this charity either. </p>
<p>I am checking on another issue, I will write further once I have done the necessary research.</p>
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