Shahid Kamal Speaks at Hendon Mosque

by Shahid on February 7, 2010

I was invited by Shaykh Suliman Gani to talk on the subject of Ahmadiyya at Hendon Mosque & Islamic Centre on Saturday evening. Alhamdulillah, it was a packed house. It always amazes me to see packed mosques full of observing Muslims of all backgrounds. Islam is  a beautiful deen and it beats strong in the hearts of many.

Sadly, I have no audio recording of the talk, but it went very well alhamdulillah and the brothers who greeted me afterwards gave uniformly positive feedback. There was a good round of Q&A at the end.

My talk was the last one of the programme, following Shaykh Suliman Gani’s impassioned defence of the Finality of Prophethood. His talk in turn followed an inspiring talk by one of the local shaykhs on the status of the sahabas. I covered some of the Myths and Misconceptions that Ahmadis have about Islam, Muslims and themselves. The substance of this talk was covered in greater detail in a video that I made with the team that produced my interview on Iqra. It will be made available on the web soon insha’Allah.

Myth 1: Ahmadis are United, Muslims are disunited

I conducted a straw poll and asked the attendees who the Last Prophet was. The result was unanimous. I told the audience that the answer would be the same in just about any mosque in the world and that was our true unity – that and our shared `eeman. I explained that our theology is broadly similar. Credit must go to brother Farhan for inspiration.

I then referred to the Ahmadiyya, whose membership backbite amongst themselves and are not even united on whether their founder was a prophet or not.

Myth 2: Mullahs

Mullahs are bogeymen, used by the Mirzology clergy to frighten their children, the way Victorian parents used “Saladin” as a bogeyman to terrify their kids at bedtime. And in any case, Ahmadiyya clergy have spread hatred about Muslim `ulama since the time of the founder of Mirzology himself, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani, which kind of makes them ideal arhcetypes for their “mullah” fantasy, inverting the “Love for All, Hatred for None” credo neatly.

I then asked if Sheikh Hamza Yusuf, Professor Tariq Ramadan or Shaykh Suliman Gani (who had already spoken at this gathering) were preachers of hate or mullahs? The audience was incredulous, of course not!

Myth 3: That Ahmadis are better educated and better thinkers than the low-life Muslims.

Prospect magazine, which ran a poll on the Top 100 public intellectuals in 2008, showed that the top 10 were… ALL MUSLIMS. That’s right. Not a single Mirzologist in the top 10. Not one in the top 100 either. That’s because there are currently no notable thinkers from the Cult of Mirzology.

Myth 4: That Ahmadis are growing in number all the time.

I pointed out that in 2002, Mirza Tahir claimed a membership of 200M. The audience laughed. In 2003, Nasim Rehmatullah claimed 50M. I wondered where the 150M had disappeared to.

For more, have a look here.

I plan on continuing, insha’Allah to give as many talks as my schedule permits. Having previously talked at Morden Islamic Centre, Kingston and Tooting Islamic Centre, this was my first talk on Mirzology in North London.

May Allah (SWT) guide the Ahmadis to Islam.

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Takfīr – Declaring others Kāfir

by Farhan on January 31, 2010

Bismillah,

This is one of the most touchy topics between Muslims and Ahmadis, inspiring the most enmity and ill-feelings between the two religions. But, I think that this important topic that should be discussed in a civil, respectful yet firm manor.

First, a definition. Roughly speaking, Takfīr (تكفير) means to declare someone not a Muslim. This dangerous task is only done to save the Muslims from falling into deviant or otherwise corrupted interpretations of Islam which would render them non-Muslims.

I do not call individual Ahmadis kāfir. I never have and, in sha Allah, I never will. The reason I do not is because I personally know Ahmadis who are only Ahmadi by-name, but in reality they are Muslims. They only bear the title “Ahmadi” because they were born into the faith. I do not claim to know what is in the hearts of Ahmadis. Instead, I declare the religion itself to be Kufr. Meaning, the religion Ahmadiyya is not Islam. I judge the religion, not the individual adherent of the religion. This is why we call Ahmadis from Ahmadiyya and to Islam.

Lets compare this to the writings of Mirza Bashir-ud-Deen Mahmood Ahmad, the second “khalifah” of Ahmadiyya. In his book The Truth about the Split, he wrote about the issue of Takfīr. The following are three quotes, starting from his highly questionable quote moving to his most extreme declaration.

On page 74 of the book, he wrote:

Now, as we hold that the revelation which came to the Promised Messiah are such that their acceptance is obligatory on mankind in general, to us, the man who rejects the Promised Messiah is a kafir agreeably to the teachings of the Holy Quran, although he may well be a believer in all the other truths of religion because the presence even of one of the necessary conditions of Kufr is sufficient to make a man kafir.

In this quote, Mahmood Ahmad declares Muslims who do not believe Mirza Ghulam is the Maseeh as kaafirs. Now consider the following quote. On page 162, he wrote:

Then in my own words. I summarised the purport of the quotations as follows: “Thus, according to these quotations, not only are those deemed to be kuffar, who openly style the Promised Messiah as kafir, and those who although they do not style him thus, decline still to accept his claim, but even those who, in their hearts, believe the Promised Messiahas to be true, and do not even deny him with their tongues, but hesitate to enter into his Bai‘at, have here been adjudged to be kuffar.

In this quote, Mahmood Ahmad re-declares Muslims to be kufār, but then takes the additional step to even declare those Ahmadis who have not formally given him the Bay’ah (pledge) are not Muslims. This quote is more aggressive. Lets now look at the most extreme quote. On page 70, he wrote:

These changes, according to Maulawi Muhammad Ali, relate to three matters; … (3) the belief that all those so-called Muslims who have not entered into his Bai‘at formally, wherever they may be, are kuffar and outside the pale of Islam, even though they may not have heard the name of the Promised Messiah.

In this most extreme statement, Mahmood Ahmad declares 1.2 billion Muslims to be kufār, even if they have not heard the name Mirza Ghulam. Ironically, most Ahmadis become upset that the religion itself has been declared a separate religion, distinct and unique from Islam.

(There are other statements of this nature by Mirza Ghulam himself, but I’ll save those for another post)

To my Ahmadi readers, do not accept this aggressive declaration of Kufr from those whom you invest your faith in. Instead, leave this false prophet and his misguidance and embrace the traditional path of Islam. Islam is in your blood, take back what Mirza Ghulam stole from you. I would be honored to call you my brother- not in Ahmadiyya- but in Islam.

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Unity in Islam vs Ahmadiyya

January 26, 2010

Bismillah,
An Ahmadi commentator on Shahid’s post recently described his community as the “Epitome of Unity”, and cited the system of Khilafah as a symbol of this fact. Is their unity really as solid as they would like to admit? Lets take a closer look.
For starters, most of us know that the Ahmadi community split into two [...]

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The Mirzas were Traitors Vol. 1

January 25, 2010

I am reading a book written by William Wilson Hunter titled The Indian Musalmans (1872). Hunter relates the story of Syed Ahmad Barelvi and how he rallied the Muslims of India, Afghanistan and Bengal to do jihad against Ranjeet Singh and the Sikhs. Hunter explained how the British were afraid of what jihad could do [...]

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100 Red Buses

January 19, 2010

I was amused to see the Mirzologists resort to advertising to push their support for illegal, imperialist wars in the run-in to the general election. It’s probably no accident that just a week after the transparently straw-man outfit “Islam4UK” got banned for talking about wanting to demonstrate against a war of occupation, that Shahid Malik [...]

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“Gardens of the Righteous” – Gems of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad #1

January 14, 2010

Khushu` – Mirzai style
“Dr. Mir Ismail narrated to me that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani said many times that when a man humbly entreats Allah in intimacy, prays to Him and worships Him and in this condition, if someone comes to know (sees him),  this brings more embarrassment than that which an adulterer feels when caught [...]

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Audio of Shahid Kamal at Tooting Islamic Centre

January 12, 2010

This was a brief, impromptu talk at the Tooting Islamic Centre. It includes around half an hour of Q&A, with a Qadiani who said “I’m an Ahmadi Muslim”. We welcomed him and I commended him on his presence. He referred to us as his “brothers”. There’s always a chance when you hear that.
Jazakallah khayr to [...]

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Tooting Islamic Centre

January 12, 2010

As salaamu ‘alaykum to all the brothers and sisters from Tooting who are visiting this blog for the first time.
Yesterday evening I had been asked to discuss a critical issue with a family. I won’t go into detail out of respect for their privacy. Shaykh Suliman Gani, one of our respected and learned [...]

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Mirza the Linguist

January 9, 2010

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad made some wild claims and there were several occasions on which he really overstretched himself and left himself vulnerable to ridicule. One of those occasions was his patently absurd claim that “Arabic is the mother of all languages”. Rather than write about this at length, I’ll allow you to read the thoughts [...]

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How Cults Work

January 5, 2010

Recognise any of these ideas?

(Hat tip: excultfollower on ahmedi.org)

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